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Copyright disclaimer on team photos #587
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http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ03.pdf Although the Circular states that notice is not required for assertion of copyright, it goes on to say that notice does provide benefits to the copyright owner:
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@adelevie Sorry, could you provide some context? I think you're suggesting that we put a link on the bottom of the 18F website to the license file? |
Anything that provides notice I think would benefit the copyright owner if control is being sought. It eliminates a potential defense available to entities that make unauthorized copies. How notice is given is sort of a moving target given that I have no idea what the new team page will look like. Notice could be:
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I think the root of this is some confusion between copyright and right of Copyright is the right that controls the reproduction of a specific image. However, the dedication of a specific image is completely independent of a For example, let's imagine if a headshot of Eric is in the public domain. If I launched a new line of laptops and used that headshot to advertise To take another example (and to probably give one example too many), I On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Alan deLevie notifications@github.com
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Using the photo to defame or otherwise harm David Bowie or Eric in those examples would infringe too, right? I'm thinking of the Vanna White case where Samsung portrayed her as a robot. IANAL but if I remember the case correctly I think Samsung had permission or at least fair use over the copyrights and trademarks involved but got burned by making a public figure look like a robot. The trick with right to publicity is also that the person claiming infringement has a burden of proof to show they're a well known public figure. David or Eric are famous, for example, but I am not so I would have a harder time proving the harms of an unflattering or endorsing portrayal. From my understanding this is a First Amendment protection for the photographer/artist doing the portrayal. For copyright infringement you could just file a DMCA takedown and not have to prove you even own the work. How does this work with Government publications reprinting photos for which they have a license? GSA has a license agreement with one of the stock photo providers, I doubt the provider dedicates anything GSA decides to use into the public domain. Is there a licensing model there that we can follow? |
Again, I think it is really important to keep in mind that copyright and All of the licensing stuff we are discussing here is copyright licensing. Government using commercial stock photos is probably one of those examples This is essentially exactly what happened last year with the congressional On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:40 AM, Greg Boone notifications@github.com wrote:
Michael Weinberg, Vice President, PK Thinks Public Knowledge | @publicknowledge | www.publicknowledge.org Promoting a Creative & Connected Future. |
For more on what @mwweinberg is talking about, read this comment thread and this blog post: https://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2014/03/05/congress-in-photos-a-civic-hacking-success-story/ |
@mwweinberg if I'm reading your perspective correctly, then if I issue a pull request to our website which has this note:
Then I am waiving my copyright interest. There are also "related rights" whatever they are. But I'm not giving the right of publicity to everyone. I would need to explicity give my permission for someone to associate me with something else. So, it is likely that if someone put my image on their product with an implied endorsement, I could sue them. That seems clear... However, if someone put a photo of me on a poster with the words "I am a female engineer" -- which is a true statement, but I might feel ambivalent to be used as part of a marketing campaign that focused on my gender, when I really prefer to be known by my accomplishments, but most people would think that was flattering and the statement certainly is true. It's complicated. One could imagine that someone might make such a poster and think they were doing a good thing and there would be no profit or implied endorsement of anything. The point is that I would want to be asked and would likely create a different campaign if I were asked, and want it to be clear that my public domain photo is fine for use in identifying me and my work, but not in other context without my permission. Does that make sense? |
Let me just preface this, as I impliedly preface everything here, with the That being said... I believe that you are reading that note correctly. For the purposes of As to your poster question. The question makes sense. The question I The answer to that is that I'm not totally sure. If I was your lawyer my Where does this leave you? You may or may not have a way to prevent As with so many answers you get from lawyers - even when they are not being Is any of that in any way helpful? I hope so but I fear not. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Sarah Allen notifications@github.com
Michael Weinberg, Vice President, PK Thinks Public Knowledge | @publicknowledge | www.publicknowledge.org Promoting a Creative & Connected Future. |
@mwweinberg your comments are helpful, thank you for taking the time to explain the landscape a bit In thinking about this, I like the suggestion by @adelevie of adding a footer note that somehow suggests that the photos are for use with the site. Maybe "team photos used with permission" or something (that would imply that someone should seek permission for use in another context)...? |
At that point you are trying to fight misinterpretations of copyright and On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Sarah Allen notifications@github.com
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Where did we land on this? Is this disclaimer in the contributing and license docs enough? |
From what I gathered from this thread, it should be. |
Copyright disclaimer on team photos
thank you. Works for me 👍 |
@ultrasaurus raised the point that teammates may not wish to dedicate their image to the public domain. I am not certain that dedicating a photo to the public domain causes you to lose control over your likeness, but want to be responsive to the concern.
This PR adds a small section to the
LICENSE
andCONTRIBUTING
files that exempts teammate photos from the public domain dedication. Since the copyright in photos is generally held by the photographer, not the subject, that basically means that the contributor has to know that the copyright holder (the photographer) is okay with hosting their photo here. I'm very comfortable running under the assumption that this is already the case for all the photos here, and will be going forward, but it's relevant to mention.cc @mwweinberg