diff --git a/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-orchestration-account.js b/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-orchestration-account.js
index 579d27adc07..4be1b0f27b5 100644
--- a/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-orchestration-account.js
+++ b/packages/orchestration/src/exos/local-orchestration-account.js
@@ -250,6 +250,8 @@ export const prepareLocalOrchestrationAccountKit = (
           // TODO #9211 lookup denom from brand
           if ('brand' in amount) throw Fail`ERTP Amounts not yet supported`;
 
+          // TODO consider using `getChainsAndConnection` but right now it's keyed by chain name
+          // and we only have chainId for destination.
           const agoricChainInfo = await chainHub.getChainInfo('agoric');
           const { transferChannel } = await chainHub.getConnectionInfo(
             agoricChainInfo,
diff --git a/packages/orchestration/src/proposals/start-stakeAtom.js b/packages/orchestration/src/proposals/start-stakeAtom.js
index 1fd954c52e1..470236c54f8 100644
--- a/packages/orchestration/src/proposals/start-stakeAtom.js
+++ b/packages/orchestration/src/proposals/start-stakeAtom.js
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 import { makeTracer } from '@agoric/internal';
 import { makeStorageNodeChild } from '@agoric/internal/src/lib-chainStorage.js';
 import { E } from '@endo/far';
-import { makeChainHub } from '../utils/chainHub.js';
+import { getChainsAndConnection, makeChainHub } from '../utils/chainHub.js';
 
 /**
  * @import {IBCConnectionID} from '@agoric/vats';
@@ -46,9 +46,11 @@ export const startStakeAtom = async ({
 
   const chainHub = makeChainHub(await agoricNames);
 
-  const agoric = await chainHub.getChainInfo('agoric');
-  const cosmoshub = await chainHub.getChainInfo('cosmoshub');
-  const connectionInfo = await chainHub.getConnectionInfo(agoric, cosmoshub);
+  const [_, cosmoshub, connectionInfo] = await getChainsAndConnection(
+    chainHub,
+    'agoric',
+    'cosmoshub',
+  );
 
   /** @type {StartUpgradableOpts<StakeIcaSF>} */
   const startOpts = {
diff --git a/packages/orchestration/src/proposals/start-stakeOsmo.js b/packages/orchestration/src/proposals/start-stakeOsmo.js
index 96c8ea69fbe..d61b73b5ae6 100644
--- a/packages/orchestration/src/proposals/start-stakeOsmo.js
+++ b/packages/orchestration/src/proposals/start-stakeOsmo.js
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 import { makeTracer } from '@agoric/internal';
 import { makeStorageNodeChild } from '@agoric/internal/src/lib-chainStorage.js';
 import { E } from '@endo/far';
-import { makeChainHub } from '../utils/chainHub.js';
+import { getChainsAndConnection, makeChainHub } from '../utils/chainHub.js';
 
 /**
  * @import {IBCConnectionID} from '@agoric/vats';
@@ -47,11 +47,10 @@ export const startStakeOsmo = async ({
 
   const chainHub = makeChainHub(await agoricNames);
 
-  const agoric = await chainHub.getChainInfo('agoric');
-  const osmosis = await chainHub.getChainInfo('osmosis');
-  const connectionInfo = await chainHub.getConnectionInfo(
-    agoric.chainId,
-    osmosis.chainId,
+  const [_, osmosis, connectionInfo] = await getChainsAndConnection(
+    chainHub,
+    'agoric',
+    'osmosis',
   );
 
   /** @type {StartUpgradableOpts<StakeIcaSF>} */
diff --git a/packages/orchestration/src/utils/chainHub.js b/packages/orchestration/src/utils/chainHub.js
index c85fd1d0308..6e7a0387239 100644
--- a/packages/orchestration/src/utils/chainHub.js
+++ b/packages/orchestration/src/utils/chainHub.js
@@ -13,6 +13,13 @@ const { Fail } = assert;
  * @import {Zone} from '@agoric/zone';
  */
 
+/**
+ * @template {string} K
+ * @typedef {K extends keyof KnownChains
+ *   ? Omit<KnownChains[K], 'connections'>
+ *   : ChainInfo} ActualChainInfo
+ */
+
 /** agoricNames key for ChainInfo hub */
 export const CHAIN_KEY = 'chain';
 /** namehub for connection info */
@@ -82,11 +89,7 @@ export const makeChainHub = (agoricNames, zone = makeHeapZone()) => {
     /**
      * @template {string} K
      * @param {K} chainName
-     * @returns {Promise<
-     *   K extends keyof KnownChains
-     *     ? Omit<KnownChains[K], 'connections'>
-     *     : ChainInfo
-     * >}
+     * @returns {Promise<ActualChainInfo<K>>}
      */
     async getChainInfo(chainName) {
       // Either from registerChain or memoized remote lookup()
@@ -177,3 +180,27 @@ export const registerChain = async (
   // Bundle to pipeline IO
   await Promise.all(promises);
 };
+
+/**
+ * @template {string} C1
+ * @template {string} C2
+ * @param {ChainHub} chainHub
+ * @param {C1} chainName1
+ * @param {C2} chainName2
+ * @returns {Promise<
+ *   [ActualChainInfo<C1>, ActualChainInfo<C2>, IBCConnectionInfo]
+ * >}
+ */
+export const getChainsAndConnection = async (
+  chainHub,
+  chainName1,
+  chainName2,
+) => {
+  const [chain1, chain2] = await Promise.all([
+    chainHub.getChainInfo(chainName1),
+    chainHub.getChainInfo(chainName2),
+  ]);
+  const connectionInfo = await chainHub.getConnectionInfo(chain2, chain1);
+
+  return [chain1, chain2, connectionInfo];
+};