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# Node.js LTS meeting 05 May 2017 | ||
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- [Github Issue](https://github.com/nodejs/Release/issues/244) | ||
- [Meeting Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y01b-pMIp8E) | ||
- [Previous meeting](https://github.com/nodejs/Release/issues/243) | ||
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## Present | ||
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- Myles Borins (@mylesborins) | ||
- James Snell (@jasnell) | ||
- Jeremiah Senkpiel (@fishrock123) | ||
- Sam Roberts (@sam-github) | ||
- Michael Dawson (@mhdawson) | ||
- Ali Iyaz Sheikh (@ofrobots) | ||
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## Agenda | ||
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### V8 6.1 in Node 8.x | ||
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- Myles: V8 6.1 Branch is now ABI compatible with Node 8.x. | ||
- Myles: Propose October 31st for Node 8.x LTS | ||
- Jeremiah: If it slips it’ll be November, I’d prefer 24th | ||
- James: Planning 30th for 9.0.0 | ||
- Myles: We could do a cutoff of 24th and do builds then, then promote on 31st | ||
- Jeremiah: Sounds good | ||
- Rod: 6.1 of v8 gives us what over 6.0? | ||
- Myles: modern v8 | ||
- Ali: Lots of performance fixes for 6.1 | ||
- Jeremiah: Does it have import module support? | ||
- Myles: That’s 6.2 | ||
- Rod: Want to reiterate reasons we previously had for not upgrading last minute. I think we can make a special allowance in this case for Turbofan, as that itself is unstable. | ||
- Rod: Don’t want to get into a pattern of dumping stuff into LTS up to the last minute, negating part of the point of having LTS. | ||
- Myles: Having managed the LTS branches, I’m not sure it’s possible to stabilise a release over 6 months, given that we’re constantly releasing minors. | ||
- Rod: I was thinking about this too w.r.t the c-ares patch. | ||
- Rod: It increases the likelihood of unavoidable semver-majors | ||
- Sam: For V8 6.1, I think we need to get it out there. But I’m also concerned about the general precedent. Maybe we could not have minors over the last 3 months of current. The first thing that is called LTS should actually be LTS. | ||
- Myles: I think the amount of work that it takes to manage these branches means that it’s not feasible to diverge greatly from master for the first six months. | ||
- Michael: I think semver-minors are not all equal, something like a V8 update is a lot different from adding a new API or something. | ||
- Ali: I think the risk of a V8 upgrade is less destabilising than the diffs would suggest, it has been used in Chrome by millions of users. | ||
- Jeremiah: True, but it is more destabilising than the average semver-minor, and we have to discuss those. | ||
- Rod: It’s not just V8 6.1, we’ve had to shake out things that are different in Node to the browser. Stability has increased greatly, but there’s still a shaking-out period. It’s not entirely the same. | ||
- Ali: I think I’d like to see a month of feedback from Node regarding performance. | ||
- James: Yeah, but that month of feedback is before the release. | ||
- Myles: I think users want newer features as well as stability, we have to balance the two. | ||
- Michael: Specifically for 6.1 I think it’s worth the risk, in general we probably need to have more discussion about this not being general practice. | ||
- James: Agreed on both. | ||
- Myles: Perhaps we should revive the PR for a 2 month cutoff before semver-minors | ||
- Jeremiah: I think I like Sam’s idea from earlier | ||
- Michael to raise PR for policy, general agreement on V8 6.1 backport. | ||
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### Review of semver-minors for 6.x | ||
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- _Notes in individual PRs_ |