diff --git a/src/vt/collective/reduce/reduce.h b/src/vt/collective/reduce/reduce.h
index e38f18888b..3e3f46e3b2 100644
--- a/src/vt/collective/reduce/reduce.h
+++ b/src/vt/collective/reduce/reduce.h
@@ -108,6 +108,23 @@ struct Reduce : virtual collective::tree::Tree {
    */
   detail::ReduceStamp generateNextID();
 
+  /**
+   * \brief Reduce a message up the tree, possibly delayed through a pending send
+   *
+   * \param[in] root the root node where the final handler provides the result
+   * \param[in] msg the message to reduce on this node
+   * \param[in] id the reduction stamp (optional), provided if out-of-order
+   * \param[in] num_contrib number of expected contributions from this node
+   *
+   * \return the pending send corresponding to the reduce
+   */
+  template <typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT>* f>
+  PendingSendType reduce(
+    NodeType root, MsgT* const msg,
+    detail::ReduceStamp id = detail::ReduceStamp{},
+    ReduceNumType num_contrib = 1
+  );
+
   /**
    * \brief Reduce a message up the tree
    *
@@ -119,7 +136,7 @@ struct Reduce : virtual collective::tree::Tree {
    * \return the next reduction stamp
    */
   template <typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT>* f>
-  detail::ReduceStamp reduce(
+  detail::ReduceStamp reduceImmediate(
     NodeType root, MsgT* const msg,
     detail::ReduceStamp id = detail::ReduceStamp{},
     ReduceNumType num_contrib = 1
@@ -143,7 +160,31 @@ struct Reduce : virtual collective::tree::Tree {
       MsgT, OpT, collective::reduce::operators::ReduceCallback<MsgT>
     >
   >
-  detail::ReduceStamp reduce(
+  PendingSendType reduce(
+    NodeType const& root, MsgT* msg, Callback<MsgT> cb,
+    detail::ReduceStamp id = detail::ReduceStamp{},
+    ReduceNumType const& num_contrib = 1
+  );
+
+  /**
+   * \brief Reduce a message up the tree
+   *
+   * \param[in] root the root node where the final handler provides the result
+   * \param[in] msg the message to reduce on this node
+   * \param[in] cb the callback to trigger on the root node
+   * \param[in] id the reduction stamp (optional), provided if out-of-order
+   * \param[in] num_contrib number of expected contributions from this node
+   *
+   * \return the next reduction stamp
+   */
+  template <
+    typename OpT,
+    typename MsgT,
+    ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f = MsgT::template msgHandler<
+      MsgT, OpT, collective::reduce::operators::ReduceCallback<MsgT>
+    >
+  >
+  detail::ReduceStamp reduceImmediate(
     NodeType const& root, MsgT* msg, Callback<MsgT> cb,
     detail::ReduceStamp id = detail::ReduceStamp{},
     ReduceNumType const& num_contrib = 1
@@ -165,7 +206,29 @@ struct Reduce : virtual collective::tree::Tree {
     typename MsgT,
     ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f = MsgT::template msgHandler<MsgT, OpT, FunctorT>
   >
-  detail::ReduceStamp reduce(
+  PendingSendType reduce(
+    NodeType const& root, MsgT* msg,
+    detail::ReduceStamp id = detail::ReduceStamp{},
+    ReduceNumType const& num_contrib = 1
+  );
+
+  /**
+   * \brief Reduce a message up the tree with a target function on the root node
+   *
+   * \param[in] root the root node where the final handler provides the result
+   * \param[in] msg the message to reduce on this node
+   * \param[in] id the reduction stamp (optional), provided if out-of-order
+   * \param[in] num_contrib number of expected contributions from this node
+   *
+   * \return the next reduction stamp
+   */
+  template <
+    typename OpT,
+    typename FunctorT,
+    typename MsgT,
+    ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f = MsgT::template msgHandler<MsgT, OpT, FunctorT>
+  >
+  detail::ReduceStamp reduceImmediate(
     NodeType const& root, MsgT* msg,
     detail::ReduceStamp id = detail::ReduceStamp{},
     ReduceNumType const& num_contrib = 1
diff --git a/src/vt/collective/reduce/reduce.impl.h b/src/vt/collective/reduce/reduce.impl.h
index cdf16080ac..1f4728df17 100644
--- a/src/vt/collective/reduce/reduce.impl.h
+++ b/src/vt/collective/reduce/reduce.impl.h
@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ void Reduce::reduceRootRecv(MsgT* msg) {
 }
 
 template <typename OpT, typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f>
-detail::ReduceStamp Reduce::reduce(
+Reduce::PendingSendType Reduce::reduce(
   NodeType const& root, MsgT* msg, Callback<MsgT> cb, detail::ReduceStamp id,
   ReduceNumType const& num_contrib
 ) {
@@ -88,18 +88,48 @@ detail::ReduceStamp Reduce::reduce(
   return reduce<MsgT,f>(root,msg,id,num_contrib);
 }
 
+template <typename OpT, typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f>
+detail::ReduceStamp Reduce::reduceImmediate(
+  NodeType const& root, MsgT* msg, Callback<MsgT> cb, detail::ReduceStamp id,
+  ReduceNumType const& num_contrib
+) {
+  msg->setCallback(cb);
+  return reduceImmediate<MsgT,f>(root,msg,id,num_contrib);
+}
+
 template <
   typename OpT, typename FunctorT, typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f
 >
-detail::ReduceStamp Reduce::reduce(
+Reduce::PendingSendType Reduce::reduce(
   NodeType const& root, MsgT* msg, detail::ReduceStamp id,
   ReduceNumType const& num_contrib
 ) {
   return reduce<MsgT,f>(root,msg,id,num_contrib);
 }
 
+template <
+  typename OpT, typename FunctorT, typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f
+>
+detail::ReduceStamp Reduce::reduceImmediate(
+  NodeType const& root, MsgT* msg, detail::ReduceStamp id,
+  ReduceNumType const& num_contrib
+) {
+  return reduceImmediate<MsgT,f>(root,msg,id,num_contrib);
+}
+
+template <typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT>* f>
+Reduce::PendingSendType Reduce::reduce(
+  NodeType root, MsgT* const msg, detail::ReduceStamp id,
+  ReduceNumType num_contrib
+) {
+  auto msg_ptr = promoteMsg(msg);
+  return PendingSendType{theMsg()->getEpochContextMsg(msg_ptr), [=](){
+                           reduceImmediate<MsgT, f>(root, msg_ptr.get(), id, num_contrib);
+                         } };
+}
+
 template <typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT>* f>
-detail::ReduceStamp Reduce::reduce(
+detail::ReduceStamp Reduce::reduceImmediate(
   NodeType root, MsgT* const msg, detail::ReduceStamp id,
   ReduceNumType num_contrib
 ) {
diff --git a/src/vt/messaging/pending_send.cc b/src/vt/messaging/pending_send.cc
index 30bb738c8e..0b268fd150 100644
--- a/src/vt/messaging/pending_send.cc
+++ b/src/vt/messaging/pending_send.cc
@@ -47,12 +47,6 @@
 
 namespace vt { namespace messaging {
 
-PendingSend::PendingSend(
-  MsgSharedPtr<BaseMsgType> const& in_msg, ByteType const& in_msg_size)
-  : msg_(in_msg.toVirtual<BaseMsgType>()), msg_size_(in_msg_size) {
-  produceMsg();
-}
-
 PendingSend::PendingSend(EpochType ep, EpochActionType const& in_action)
   : epoch_action_{in_action}, epoch_produced_(ep) {
   if (epoch_produced_ != no_epoch) {
diff --git a/src/vt/objgroup/manager.impl.h b/src/vt/objgroup/manager.impl.h
index f3e0627cab..43c196519d 100644
--- a/src/vt/objgroup/manager.impl.h
+++ b/src/vt/objgroup/manager.impl.h
@@ -295,7 +295,7 @@ ObjGroupManager::PendingSendType ObjGroupManager::reduce(
   auto const objgroup = proxy.getProxy();
 
   auto r = theCollective()->getReducerObjGroup(objgroup);
-  r->template reduce<MsgT,f>(root, msg.get(), stamp);
+  return r->template reduce<MsgT,f>(root, msg.get(), stamp);
 }
 
 template <typename ObjT>
diff --git a/src/vt/vrt/collection/manager.impl.h b/src/vt/vrt/collection/manager.impl.h
index 39c7e15e10..770d80f766 100644
--- a/src/vt/vrt/collection/manager.impl.h
+++ b/src/vt/vrt/collection/manager.impl.h
@@ -1054,7 +1054,7 @@ messaging::PendingSend CollectionManager::broadcastMsgUntypedHandler(
 }
 
 template <typename ColT, typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f>
-void CollectionManager::reduceMsgExpr(
+messaging::PendingSend CollectionManager::reduceMsgExpr(
   CollectionProxyWrapType<ColT> const& proxy,
   MsgT *const raw_msg, ReduceIdxFuncType<typename ColT::IndexType> expr_fn,
   ReduceStamp stamp, NodeType root
@@ -1071,7 +1071,7 @@ void CollectionManager::reduceMsgExpr(
   auto const col_proxy = proxy.getProxy();
   auto const cur_epoch = theMsg()->getEpochContextMsg(msg);
 
-  bufferOpOrExecute<ColT>(
+  return bufferOpOrExecute<ColT>(
     col_proxy,
     BufferTypeEnum::Reduce,
     static_cast<BufferReleaseEnum>(
@@ -1115,7 +1115,7 @@ void CollectionManager::reduceMsgExpr(
         r = theCollective()->getReducerVrtProxy(col_proxy);
       }
 
-      auto ret_stamp = r->reduce<MsgT,f>(root_node, msg.get(), cur_stamp, num_elms);
+      auto ret_stamp = r->reduceImmediate<MsgT,f>(root_node, msg.get(), cur_stamp, num_elms);
 
       vt_debug_print(
         vrt_coll, node,
@@ -1143,7 +1143,7 @@ void CollectionManager::reduceMsgExpr(
 }
 
 template <typename ColT, typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f>
-void CollectionManager::reduceMsg(
+messaging::PendingSend CollectionManager::reduceMsg(
   CollectionProxyWrapType<ColT> const& proxy,
   MsgT *const msg, ReduceStamp stamp, NodeType root
 ) {
@@ -1151,7 +1151,7 @@ void CollectionManager::reduceMsg(
 }
 
 template <typename ColT, typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f>
-void CollectionManager::reduceMsg(
+messaging::PendingSend CollectionManager::reduceMsg(
   CollectionProxyWrapType<ColT> const& proxy,
   MsgT *const msg, ReduceStamp stamp, typename ColT::IndexType const& idx
 ) {
@@ -1159,7 +1159,7 @@ void CollectionManager::reduceMsg(
 }
 
 template <typename ColT, typename MsgT, ActiveTypedFnType<MsgT> *f>
-void CollectionManager::reduceMsgExpr(
+messaging::PendingSend CollectionManager::reduceMsgExpr(
   CollectionProxyWrapType<ColT> const& proxy,
   MsgT *const msg, ReduceIdxFuncType<typename ColT::IndexType> expr_fn,
   ReduceStamp stamp, typename ColT::IndexType const& idx
diff --git a/tests/unit/termination/test_term_chaining.cc b/tests/unit/termination/test_term_chaining.cc
index 5c3b79ca73..63c1bc05e2 100644
--- a/tests/unit/termination/test_term_chaining.cc
+++ b/tests/unit/termination/test_term_chaining.cc
@@ -157,26 +157,26 @@ struct TestTermChaining : TestParallelHarness {
     if (0 == node) {
       EpochType epoch1 = theTerm()->makeEpochRooted();
       vt::theMsg()->pushEpoch(epoch1);
-      auto msg = makeSharedMessage<TestMsg>();
+      auto msg = makeMessage<TestMsg>();
       chain.add(
-        epoch1, theMsg()->sendMsg<TestMsg, test_handler_reflector>(1, msg));
+        epoch1, theMsg()->sendMsg<TestMsg, test_handler_reflector>(1, msg.get()));
       vt::theMsg()->popEpoch(epoch1);
       vt::theTerm()->finishedEpoch(epoch1);
     }
 
     EpochType epoch2 = theTerm()->makeEpochCollective();
     vt::theMsg()->pushEpoch(epoch2);
-    auto msg2 = makeSharedMessage<ChainReduceMsg>(theContext()->getNode());
-    chain.add(epoch2, theCollective()->reduce<ChainReduceMsg, test_handler_reduce>(0, msg2));
+    auto msg2 = makeMessage<ChainReduceMsg>(theContext()->getNode());
+    chain.add(epoch2, theCollective()->global()->reduce<ChainReduceMsg, test_handler_reduce>(0, msg2.get()));
     vt::theMsg()->popEpoch(epoch2);
     vt::theTerm()->finishedEpoch(epoch2);
 
     // Broadcast from both nodes, bcast wont send to itself
     EpochType epoch3 = theTerm()->makeEpochRooted();
     vt::theMsg()->pushEpoch(epoch3);
-    auto msg3 = makeSharedMessage<TestMsg>();
+    auto msg3 = makeMessage<TestMsg>();
     chain.add(
-      epoch3, theMsg()->broadcastMsg<TestMsg, test_handler_bcast>(msg3));
+      epoch3, theMsg()->broadcastMsg<TestMsg, test_handler_bcast>(msg3.get()));
     vt::theMsg()->popEpoch(epoch3);
     vt::theTerm()->finishedEpoch(epoch3);
 
@@ -188,15 +188,15 @@ struct TestTermChaining : TestParallelHarness {
 
     EpochType epoch2 = theTerm()->makeEpochRooted();
     vt::theMsg()->pushEpoch(epoch2);
-    auto msg2 = makeSharedMessage<ChainReduceMsg>(theContext()->getNode());
-    chain.add(epoch2, theCollective()->reduce<ChainReduceMsg, test_handler_reduce>(0, msg2));
+    auto msg2 = makeMessage<ChainReduceMsg>(theContext()->getNode());
+    chain.add(epoch2, theCollective()->global()->reduce<ChainReduceMsg, test_handler_reduce>(0, msg2.get()));
     vt::theMsg()->popEpoch(epoch2);
     vt::theTerm()->finishedEpoch(epoch2);
 
     EpochType epoch3 = theTerm()->makeEpochRooted();
     vt::theMsg()->pushEpoch(epoch3);
-    auto msg3 = makeSharedMessage<TestMsg>();
-    chain.add(epoch3, theMsg()->broadcastMsg<TestMsg, test_handler_bcast>(msg3));
+    auto msg3 = makeMessage<TestMsg>();
+    chain.add(epoch3, theMsg()->broadcastMsg<TestMsg, test_handler_bcast>(msg3.get()));
     vt::theMsg()->popEpoch(epoch3);
     vt::theTerm()->finishedEpoch(epoch3);