diff --git a/items/epic.lua b/items/epic.lua
index 04e46c890..fcf78505e 100644
--- a/items/epic.lua
+++ b/items/epic.lua
@@ -1009,7 +1009,6 @@ local number_blocks = {
 
 -- Double Scale
 -- Scaling jokers scale quadratically
--- Most of the code for this lies in Card:cry_double_scale_calc in lib/calculate.lua
 local double_scale = {
 	object_type = "Joker",
 	name = "cry-Double Scale",
@@ -1036,28 +1035,30 @@ local double_scale = {
 	cost = 18,
 	immutable = true,
 	atlas = "atlasepic",
-	calc_scaling = function(self, card, other, current_scaling, current_scalar, args)
-		if not G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales then
-			G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales = {}
-		end
-		if not G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales[other.config.center.key] then
-			G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales[other.config.center.key] = {}
-		end
-		if not G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales[other.config.center.key][args.scalar_value] then
-			G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales[other.config.center.key][args.scalar_value] = current_scalar
+		calc_scaling = function(self, card, other, current_scaling, current_scalar, args)
+		-- store original scaling rate
+		if not other.ability.cry_scaling_info then
+			other.ability.cry_scaling_info = {
+				[args.scalar_value] = current_scalar
+			}
+		elseif not other.ability.cry_scaling_info[args.scalar_value] then
+			other.ability.cry_scaling_info[args.scalar_value] = current_scalar
 		end
-		local true_base = G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales[other.config.center.key][args.scalar_value]
-		local orig_scale_scale = current_scaling
+
+		local original_scalar = other.ability.cry_scaling_info[args.scalar_value]
+
+		-- joker scaling stuff
 		if Cryptid.gameset(self) == "exp_modest" then
 			return {
-				scalar_value = lenient_bignum(to_big(true_base) * 2),
+				scalar_value = lenient_bignum(to_big(original_scalar) * 2),
+				message = localize("k_upgrade_ex"),
+			}
+		else
+			args.scalar_table[args.scalar_value] = current_scalar + original_scalar
+			return {
 				message = localize("k_upgrade_ex"),
 			}
 		end
-		args.scalar_table[args.scalar_value] = new_scale
-		return {
-			message = localize("k_upgrade_ex"),
-		}
 	end,
 	cry_credits = {
 		idea = {
@@ -1068,7 +1069,7 @@ local double_scale = {
 		},
 		code = {
 			"Math",
-			"Mathguy",
+			"Mathguy"
 		},
 	},
 }
diff --git a/items/exotic.lua b/items/exotic.lua
index 7c78ac408..6a90978d0 100644
--- a/items/exotic.lua
+++ b/items/exotic.lua
@@ -819,41 +819,42 @@ local scalae = {
 		end
 	end,
 	calc_scaling = function(self, card, other, current_scaling, current_scalar, args)
-		if other.ability.name ~= "cry-Scalae" then
-			if not G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales then
-				G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales = {}
-			end
-			if not G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales[other.config.center.key] then
-				G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales[other.config.center.key] = {}
-			end
-			if not G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales[other.config.center.key][args.scalar_value] then
-				G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales[other.config.center.key][args.scalar_value] = current_scalar
-			end
-			local true_base = G.GAME.cryptid_base_scales[other.config.center.key][args.scalar_value]
-			local orig_scale_scale = current_scaling
-			local new_scale = lenient_bignum(
-				to_big(true_base)
-					* (
-						(
-							1
-							+ (
-								(to_big(orig_scale_scale) / to_big(true_base))
-								^ (to_big(1) / to_big(card.ability.extra.scale))
-							)
-						) ^ to_big(card.ability.extra.scale)
-					)
-			)
-			if not Cryptid.is_card_big(other) and to_big(new_scale) >= to_big(1e300) then
-				new_scale = 1e300
-			end
-			return {
-				scalar_value = new_scale,
-				message = localize("k_upgrade_ex"),
+		-- checks if the scaled joker is also a scalae
+		-- if so, return nothing
+		if other.config.center.key == self.key then return end
+
+		-- store original scaling rate
+		if not other.ability.cry_scaling_info then
+			other.ability.cry_scaling_info = {
+				[args.scalar_value] = current_scalar
 			}
+		elseif not other.ability.cry_scaling_info[args.scalar_value] then
+			other.ability.cry_scaling_info[args.scalar_value] = current_scalar
 		end
+
+		-- joker scaling stuff
+		local original_scalar = other.ability.cry_scaling_info[args.scalar_value]
+		local new_scale = lenient_bignum(
+			to_big(original_scalar) * (
+				(
+					1
+					+ (
+						(to_big(current_scaling) / to_big(original_scalar))
+						^ (to_big(1) / to_big(card.ability.extra.scale))
+					)
+				) ^ to_big(card.ability.extra.scale)
+			)
+		)
+		args.scalar_table[args.scalar_value] = new_scale
+
+		return {
+			message = localize("k_upgrade_ex"),
+		}
 	end,
+
 	loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
 		local example = { 2, 3, 4 }
+		-- this is literally just straight up wrong atm, scalae doesn't work like this
 		for i = 1, #example do
 			example[i] = to_big(example[i]) ^ (card.ability.extra.scale + 1)
 		end
diff --git a/lib/misprintize.lua b/lib/misprintize.lua
index 323a38d04..f328207c3 100644
--- a/lib/misprintize.lua
+++ b/lib/misprintize.lua
@@ -499,12 +499,20 @@ function Cryptid.manipulate_table(card, ref_table, ref_value, args, tblkey)
 						or Cryptid.base_values[card.config.center.key][i .. "consumeable"]
 				end
 			end
-			if args.big ~= nil then
-				ref_table[ref_value][i] = Cryptid.manipulate_value(num, args, args.big, i)
-			else
-				ref_table[ref_value][i] = Cryptid.manipulate_value(num, args, Cryptid.is_card_big(card), i)
+			local new_val = Cryptid.manipulate_value(
+				num,
+				args,
+				args.big or Cryptid.is_card_big(card),
+				i
+			)
+			ref_table[ref_value][i] = new_val
+
+			-- take double scale / scalae into account
+			if ref_value == "ability" and ref_table.ability.cry_scaling_info then
+				ref_table.ability.cry_scaling_info[i] = new_val
 			end
-		elseif i ~= "immutable" and type(v) == "table" and Cryptid.misprintize_value_blacklist[i] ~= false then
+
+		elseif i ~= "immutable" and not (ref_value == "ability" and i == "cry_scaling_info") and type(v) == "table" and Cryptid.misprintize_value_blacklist[i] ~= false then
 			Cryptid.manipulate_table(card, ref_table[ref_value], i, args)
 		end
 	end