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+---
+stage: accepted
+start-date: 2022-07-22
+release-date: Unreleased
+release-versions:
+teams: # delete teams that aren't relevant
+  - cli
+  - learning
+prs:
+  accepted: https://github.com/emberjs/rfcs/pull/831
+project-link: https://github.com/ember-learn/cli-guides/issues/272
+suite: 
+---
+
+<!--- 
+Directions for above: 
+
+Stage: Leave as is
+Start Date: Fill in with today's date, YYYY-MM-DD
+Release Date: Leave as is
+Release Versions: Leave as is
+Relevant Team(s): Fill this in with the [team(s)](README.md#relevant-teams) to which this RFC applies
+RFC PR: Fill this in with the URL for the Proposal RFC PR
+-->
+
+# <RFC title>
+Standardize the use of yarn and npm scripts in the Ember experience
+
+## Summary
+
+This change encourages developers to use scripts in `package.json` 
+for certain commands when working with Ember
+applications, rather than using global Ember CLI commands like `ember serve` or focusing on npm/yarn.
+This aligns Ember with norms in the JavaScript community, and
+helps in reducing the confusion around Ember-specific commands.
+
+## Motivation
+
+In many JavaScript projects, the following commands are very common:
+
+```
+npm start
+npm test
+```
+
+These scripts are defined in the `package.json` of Ember apps, however,
+Ember's documentation tells developers to run these commands instead:
+
+```
+ember serve
+ember test
+```
+
+Notably, `ember test` and `npm test` give different results.
+
+When we run `ember test`, it sets the environment to test and performs `Ember.onerror` validation by default.
+Whereas, in the case of `npm test`, there is an abstraction of the underlying commands that allows the user to run extra checks such as lint tests across the files and finally performs `ember test`.
+This is useful in carrying on a sequence of instructions and using them without having to worry about how they function behind the hood.
+As a result, a lot of developer time is saved and it also reduces the human error that might have been made if the abstract tooling was not used.
+
+`ember test`
+![Ember test](/images/ember_test.png)
+
+`npm test` 
+![Npm test](/images/npm_test.png)
+
+If documentation encouraged using `yarn` or `npm`, this would allow developers to customize the scripts
+themselves while also having a standard command that everyone can run in any project 
+and get an expected output, regardless of what's going on under the hood. We can include a link to "prior art" of showing `npm start` in CLI output.
+
+Consider cases where the author of an addon sets up `yarn test` to run with `ember-exam`.
+In such cases, one shouldn't be manually changing the default documentation for a script that already existed.
+
+In another case of using the `package.json` script for start/test, it allows teams to abstract details about their specific dev environment,
+which makes developers' jobs easier. They can use `yarn start` or 
+`pnpm start` without actually having to know which command starts the server.
+Moreover, using tooling abstraction provided by npm/yarn helps in staying consistent with industry standards rather than having to use bespoke
+tools.
+
+## Detailed design
+
+This will involve two steps
+
+1. We should decide whether we want a Standardize the use of yarn/npm scripts.
+
+2. Then we make the changes in READMEs, contributing guides, CLI output, and in learning docs.
+
+## How we teach this
+
+The following resources would need to change:
+
+* Ember-cli guides
+* Ember guides 
+* Ember API documentation 
+* The Super Rentals tutorial
+* Readme.md and Contributing.md of repos
+* Blueprints in `ember-cli`
+* We should mention that developers should always refer to Contributing.md for full instructions when working with a new app or addon. And following commands as examples: start, test, build, and prepare.
+
+## Drawbacks
+
+> Why should we *not* do this? Please consider the impact on teaching Ember,
+on the integration of this feature with other existing and planned features,
+on the impact of the API churn on existing apps, etc.
+https://github.com/ember-cli/ember-cli/issues/8969#issuecomment-1167894022
+
+> There are tradeoffs to choosing any path, please attempt to identify them here.
+
+## Alternatives
+
+* No change
+
+## Unresolved questions
+
+*  How does the difference between yarn 1, 2, and 3 affect us if we made this change?
+*  Should we show yarn and npm for every example?