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Re-consider rendering of amenity=car_sharing #4913

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imagico opened this issue Dec 7, 2023 · 4 comments
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Re-consider rendering of amenity=car_sharing #4913

imagico opened this issue Dec 7, 2023 · 4 comments
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@imagico
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imagico commented Dec 7, 2023

In #1901 we removed rendering of amenity=car_sharing (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcar_sharing) based on discussion in #1891.

I think it might be worth to re-consider that decision. Our understanding of the role of this style as well as the role of OpenStreetMap has developed since then quite a bit. As has the practical handling of car sharing in different parts of the world.

Back then the main argument was the limited usefulness of the information to the map users because users of car sharing would be using the proprietary apps of the operator. This is questionable from today's perspective because (a) OpenStreetMap is not unlikely to be a data source in specific car sharing apps, (b) car sharing users are likely not exclusively using proprietary tools of a single operator - but also might make use of more generic navigation tools for intermodal transportation or simply general purpose maps and navigation tools - like OSM-Carto and (c) car sharing stations are also a target for non-users of car sharing services - for example to meet someone who is using car sharing.

Apart from that the world is diverse and not everywhere operators of such services will maintain their own proprietary GIS databases with location information and their own proprietary apps (and even if they did - those might be worse in quality than OSM).

This does not mean i suggest we simply add this back. But we should IMO revisit the subject and newly evaluate the possibility of rendering amenity=car_sharing. Problems i see:

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@RainerBielefeld
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I can't find any good reason to hide car_sharing.
I want to see a pictogrm there, because there are lots of other radsons why people need info that there is a car sharing place.
Not only customers who want to find locations of their car sharing supplier.

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imagico commented May 30, 2024

The issue description indicates what needs to be done to bring this issue forward. Everyone is welcome to contribute to that.

@jocelynetienne
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I can't find any good reason to hide car_sharing. I want to see a pictogrm there, because there are lots of other radsons why people need info that there is a car sharing place. Not only customers who want to find locations of their car sharing supplier.

Indeed. One usage e.g. is surveying locations when planning to move in some area. At that point, what one wants is to know whether they'll be able to join a car sharing service and have a decent offer nearby.

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gosgtan commented Oct 31, 2024

I'm restarting the thread a bit. Carpooling areas and car sharing zones really need to finally be displayed, it's very popular here in France, and it just feels like important information is being omitted. Hundreds of them are built every year. Can we move forward with the issue? However, I am not competent to make the modifications, I hope someone will take it over.

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