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# Node Foundation TSC Meeting 2017-09-13 | ||
## Links | ||
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* **Recording**: * **GitHub Issue**: [TSC#338](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/388) | ||
* **Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tOeEpEz2Qf7ybjsoFXRrMSpNrEcKIIfnc3eqDYeP0zU/edit?usp=sharing | ||
* _Previous Minutes Google Doc: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1al5l33g9wlNS3fMQHNdpxyhWPoJhLAMtu4ChaAiCmYs>_ | ||
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## Present | ||
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* Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (TSC) | ||
* Anna Henningsen @addaleax (TSC) | ||
* Brian White @mscdex (TSC) | ||
* Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR (TSC) | ||
* Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (TSC) | ||
* Evan Lucas @evanlucas (TSC) | ||
* Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (TS | ||
* James M Snell @jasnell (TSC) | ||
* Myles Borins @MylesBorins (TSC) | ||
* Matteo Collina @mcollina (TSC) | ||
* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (TSC) | ||
* Michaël Zasso @targos (TSC) | ||
* Rich Trott @Trott (TSC) | ||
* Rod Vagg @rvagg (TSC) | ||
* Sakthipriyan Vairamani @thefourtheye (TSC) | ||
* William Kapke @williamkapke (Observer) | ||
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## Agenda | ||
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* announcements | ||
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* review previous meeting | ||
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### nodejs/TSC | ||
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* New TSC Director/Chair Elections [#326](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/326) | ||
* TSC Meeting Schedule [#336](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/336) | ||
* 2FA for the entire org [#301](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/301) | ||
* Candidate "areas" for TSC and Community Committee [#278](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/278) | ||
* Copyright Date [#195](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/195) | ||
* Regular roll-up reporting for active working groups [#109](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/109) | ||
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### nodejs/node | ||
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* stream: remove {writeableState/readableState}.length [#12857](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/12857) | ||
* Cleanup `_writableState` and `_readableState` access across codebase [#445](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/445) | ||
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### nodejs/CTC | ||
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* Requesting Rod to step down or be removed from the CTC [#165](https://github.com/nodejs/CTC/issues/165) | ||
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## Announcements | ||
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No announcements this week. | ||
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## Previous Meeting Review | ||
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We skipped this as we had a packed agenda. | ||
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## Minutes | ||
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### nodejs/TSC | ||
* New TSC Director/Chair Elections [#326](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/326) | ||
* No objections, Myles acclaimed as Directory, Michael acclaimed as Chair | ||
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* TSC Meeting Schedule [#336](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/336) | ||
* We should revisit quarterly, ideally aligned with | ||
daylight savings times changes. | ||
* Agreed we should move forward with the proposed times. | ||
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* 2FA for the entire org [#301](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/301) | ||
* We have consensus on step 1, will take of agenda. | ||
There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. I always get confused, is it There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.
There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. yup typo in this case. |
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* Myles, explore usb keys, could foundation fund ? | ||
* Rich, is has not been an issue so far, can we defer until we see | ||
There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. it has not There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. fixed |
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if it will be an issue. | ||
* Matteo, biggest issue is telling and reminding people to do it. | ||
* Matteo, would be good to have policy that if you need financial | ||
support you can request it. | ||
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* Candidate "areas" for TSC and Community Committee [#278](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/278) | ||
* Michael gave overview and request to get involved in issue | ||
* Mateo highlighted Metrics as one where we might do more. | ||
There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. Matteo There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. Fixed |
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* Copyright Date [#195](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/195) | ||
* Myles to bring up at one board meeting | ||
* Remove from TSC agenda. | ||
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* Regular roll-up reporting for active working groups [#109](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/109) | ||
* Myles is going to try to get podcast style updates going. | ||
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### nodejs/node | ||
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* stream: remove {writeableState/readableState}.length [#12857](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/12857) | ||
* tied to 445, see discussion there | ||
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* Cleanup `_writableState` and `_readableState` access across codebase [#445](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/445) | ||
* prefer not to tack on properties to people’s object | ||
* having bundled into separate objects is better | ||
* anna, Brian are you ok with current state ? | ||
* Brian, _ not ideal but if we can’t agree on any alternatives yes | ||
* Can’t explain how it works without including discussions of | ||
internal state machine. | ||
* If we have separate object that refers to existing one, but | ||
Matteo believes this may be an issue due to additional allocation | ||
* Jeremiah just consider _XX for writable and readable part of | ||
There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. Nit: I think the There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. I looked at in "view" and it seemed ok. |
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public API and doc. Brian does not prefer this but if not other | ||
good solutions then keep as is. | ||
* Matteo, fine to close all issues, but has been requested in | ||
the past, or somebody proposes alternative. | ||
* Matteo, time to close so let's have a vote ? | ||
* Myles, form interest group with Matteo, Brian, Anna, Jeremiah | ||
* Rich, possibly just at impasse, calling for vote | ||
* Matteo will open an issue to collect votes. | ||
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# deps: backport V8 update to 6.1 https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/15393 | ||
* Land 6.1 into 8 LTS | ||
* V8 team has worked on abi compatible patches (unclear if this | ||
is complete yet) | ||
* V8 reports that 6.1 has a larger number of fixes that would help | ||
ongoing maintenance | ||
* Rod, originally we said 2 months at one point | ||
* We would need to set end Oct at LTS release date | ||
There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. Nit: as LTS release date? |
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* Research this week on risk/reward and push decision to LTS/Release | ||
working group for informed decision on upcoming Monday LTS/Release meeting | ||
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### nodejs/security-wg | ||
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* CVE management process for Node.js [#33](https://github.com/nodejs/security-wg/issues/33) | ||
* Michael gave an overview of the proposal. Wanted to make sure TSC | ||
was comfortable moving forward. | ||
* We agreed to leave on agenda, take discussion back to github | ||
for 1 week and discuss in the meeting gnext week. | ||
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### nodejs/CTC | ||
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* Requesting Rod to step down or be removed from the CTC [#165](https://github.com/nodejs/CTC/issues/165) | ||
* Ongoing discussion over last week | ||
* Most appropriate to discuss next steps in private section of meeting | ||
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## Q&A, Other | ||
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* not seen simple user access control with react ? | ||
* we are not sure what the questions is. | ||
* try using the help nodejs/repo | ||
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## Upcoming Meetings | ||
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* **Node.js Foundation Calendar**: https://nodejs.org/calendar | ||
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Click `+GoogleCalendar` at the bottom right to add to your own Google calendar. | ||
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Director
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Would it be better to have it as Michael Dawson, as we had Michaël and Michael in the meeting today?
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acclaimed
is the wrong verb here. (It means praised.) I thinknamed
would be a better word choice. @mhdawson Would you prefer we push nits like that ourselves, or do you prefer to handle them so you can evaluate them?There was a problem hiding this comment.
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Full names or else GitHub handles seem like the way to go to avoid ambiguity.
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I'm ok with people pushing the nits themselves.
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fixed