From b866fdc516c065e1203e17c4cd470e602f2ad728 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Josh Gavant Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 15:01:46 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] doc: add CTC meeting minutes 2016-07-13 PR-URL: https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7968 Reviewed-By: James M Snell --- doc/ctc-meetings/2016-07-13.md | 236 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 236 insertions(+) create mode 100644 doc/ctc-meetings/2016-07-13.md diff --git a/doc/ctc-meetings/2016-07-13.md b/doc/ctc-meetings/2016-07-13.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000000000..467b95deb28754 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/ctc-meetings/2016-07-13.md @@ -0,0 +1,236 @@ +# Node Foundation CTC Meeting 2016-07-13 + +## Links + +* **Audio Recording**: TBP +* **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7707 +* [Minutes Google Doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fP9_ZNcPoFh2VWCgUFu9-rDiDcMP88vhCC_oX6Aj528) +* _[Previous Minutes Google Doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NWIKwYxDTApvc9Xbq5JTMorRPKIBuBKAA0zcjm8K_II)_ + +## Present + +* Anna Henningsen @addaleax (observer) +* Bradley Meck @bmeck (observer/GoDaddy/TC39) +* Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC) +* Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC) +* Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC) +* Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC) +* Fedor Indutny @indutny (CTC) +* Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft) +* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC) +* Brian White @mscdex (CTC) +* Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC) +* Alexis Campailla @orangemocha (CTC) +* Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC) +* Stephen Loomis @srl295 (observer/ICU) +* Myles Borins @TheAlphaNerd (observer) +* Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC) +* Rich Trott @Trott (CTC) + + +## Standup + +* Anna Henningsen @addaleax (observer) + * PRs & issues + * Some v4.x backports +* Bradley Meck @bmeck (observer/GoDaddy/TC39) + * Bad news from V8/Chakra. Can’t do property hoisting for Babel like CJS interop. + * Figuring out hooks for creating Modules in older Node versions +* Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC) + * Back-porting patches + * Moving stuff over from malloc() to new[] because of AIX + * ABI compatibility tool + * PRs & issues, of course - how could I forget? +* Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC) + * Reviewed issues and PRs + * Opened a few PRs +* Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC) + * Simple doc fix + * Working on cherry-picking into v6.x +* Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC) + * Fixed a TTY test that was silently failing for over a year + * misc PR & issue work +* Fedor Indutny @indutny (CTC) + * Various GYP-related tooling + * Code reviews, and fixing issues +* Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft) + * Diagnostics WG meeting + * debugging docs +* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC) + * Added LinuxOne to v8 tests in CI + * Involvement on some AIX issues + * Working on ABI stable API, API WG meeting this week + * Re-scheduled post-mortem WG meeting for next week, LTS and diagnostic WG meetings + * misc reviews/lands and keeping up on issues +* Brian White @mscdex (CTC) + * Worked on PR to check for accidental git conflict markers when linting in CI + * Backported some commits to v4.x + * Reviewed PRs and commented on issues +* Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC) + * Back from vacation, buried in email (sorry for late responses!) +* Alexis Campailla @orangemocha (CTC) + * Investigating ABI incompatibilities. Preparing to drop VS 2013. + * Reviewed miscellaneous Windows issues. + * Resumed work on a PR for case normalization of the module cache on Windows +* Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC) + * LTS README rework +* Steven Loomis @srl295 (observer/ICU) + * not much here, just trying to keep an eye on issues/PRs +* Myles Borins @TheAlphaNerd (observer) + * Working on v4.5.0 release https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688 + * CITGM Enhancements (XML + Queue) + * Working with V8 team to improve workflow for managing floated commits https://github.com/nodejs/LTS/issues/111 +* Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC) + * Working fix for one of the realpath bugs + * Backporting for v4.x + * Working on AsyncWrap implementation details +* Rich Trott @Trott (CTC) + * Trying to handle flaky test outbreak on FreeBSD in CI + * Various ESLint updates/improvements + * Banging my head against test-tick-processor flakiness which is easily the longest-standing flaky test. + + +## Agenda + +Extracted from **ctc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting. + +### nodejs/node + +* build: drop support for VS 2013 in v7 [#7484](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7484) +* Node 6 fs.realpath behavior changes [#7175](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7175) +* http: don't inherit from Object.prototype [#6102](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/6102) +* v4.5.0 proposal [#7688](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688) + +### nodejs/node-eps + +* proposal: WHATWG URL standard implementation [#28](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/28) + + +## Previous Meeting + +### build: drop support for VS 2013 in v7 [#7484](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7484) (@jasnell) + +To be discussed again. + +### Node 6 fs.realpath behavior changes [#7175](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7175) + +@trevnorris was to complete changes, to be discussed again. + +### Replace section 5.1 with unambiguous JavaScript grammar. [#33](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/33) + +@jdalton’s proposal was merged. + +### AsyncWrap public API proposal [#18](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/18) + +API was accepted, implementation TBD before October. + + +## Minutes + +### build: drop support for VS 2013 in v7 [#7484](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7484) + +@orangemocha: Decision to drop in v7 isn’t controversial. Will need to add tests for modules compiled with 2013 used with Node compiled with 2015. + +@orangemocha: Main question is switching in v6 before LTS. Is it a breaking change? + +Issue with node-sass module only comes up on Windows XP so can be discounted. + +No way to be sure if user modules compiled with 2013 might be incompatible with Node compiled with 2015. Have to run tests. Will CITGM provide sufficient testing? + +@myles: may not be enough native modules in CITGM to provide confidence. + +@Fishrock123: be sure to also test on pre-gyp’ed modules. + +@orangemocha: we may never have complete confidence that this isn’t a breaking change, but node-sass is the only issue ever reported. + +@orangemocha: Should we support modules built with 2013 in v7? +@rvagg: need to include that in tests. + +**Next steps**: Run tests with modules compiled with 2013 to see if there are issues. Keep on agenda for next week and check on progress. + +### Node 6 fs.realpath behavior changes [#7175](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7175) + +* ELOOP fix: https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7548 +* Windows PR: https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7559 (see also https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7192) + +ELOOP issue has been resolved. Windows problem being addressed in another PR. May have to use JS impl for Windows. + +@rvagg: If libuv can’t handle the realpath issue for Windows what should we do? + +@orangemocha: We’re using the JS impl for Windows. + +@trevnorris: we can use the libuv impl and defer to the JS impl if the libuv impl throws unexpectedly. + +@rvagg: should we just revert? How common is the case where this provides a speed-up? + +@trevnorris: keep both libuv and js impl for now. + +**Next steps**: All please review #7548 and #7559. + +### http: don't inherit from Object.prototype [#6102](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/6102) + +@mscdex: Prevent clash of header names with properties inherited from Object (e.g., __proto__). An object with a null prototype is already being used for the same purpose in `querystring.parse` since v6 release. + +@mscdex: Some have suggested cherry-picking some methods from Object such as `toString`: + + * So that object can be inspected. + * To ensure backward compatibility. + +@mscdex: An eventual goal may be to store headers in an ES6 Map instead of on a plain object, but that will change the API considerably. + +@evanlucas: we should follow what we did with query string parameters. + +@rvagg: first need to review as some opposition to that. + +**Next steps**: All review PR. + +### proposal: WHATWG URL standard implementation [node-eps#28](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/28) + +@trevnorris: Some discussion about supporting unregistered schemes (e.g. `chrome://`). We should support them, Chrome supports them. + +@trevnorris: `url.parse` can handle incomplete URLs (e.g. no scheme). + +@rvagg: Most important question is should `URL` be a global? There would be a `url` module and a different `URL` global. + +@fishrock123: there would be a transition period and then functionality would be in `URL` + +@rvagg: new impl is quite different from existing `url` module. Would like to see a diff. Migration will be difficult. + +**Next steps**: Waiting for @jasnell to return. Review again next week. + +### v4.5.0 proposal [#7688](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688) + +@thealphanerd: + +* Would like to include libuv v1.9.1. +* Would like very extensive testing prior to release to exclude breaking changes. + +How can we best test? + +@rvagg: Promote the RC on social media. + +@thealphanerd: npm could help test, Myles will reach out. + +@rvagg: Heroku? (Hunter Loftis) Travis CI? Probably not because it depends on nvm which doesn’t do RC’s yet. + +@thealphanerd: will talk with @ljharb about nvm support for RCs. + +**Next steps**: @thealphanerd will ping all to test RC. + +### ES Modules update + +@bmeck: named imports from CJS modules (e.g. `import {use, route} from "express"` or `import {readFile, readFileSync} from "fs"`) can’t work. + +Updates to come on the topic via: https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/issues/26 + +## Q/A on public fora + +## Upcoming Meetings + +* CTC: 2016-07-20 +* TSC: 2016-07-14 +* Diagnostics: 2016-08-03 +* Post-Mortem: 2016-07-18 +* API: 2016-07-14 +* LTS: 2016-07-25 +* Build: 2016-07-19