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WEBVTT
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Welcome to this month's Ask Your Herb Doctor.
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My name is Andrew Murray.
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For those of you who perhaps have never listened to our shows which run every third Friday
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of the month from 7 to 8 p.m., we're both licensed medical herbalists who trained in
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England and graduated there with a degree in herbal medicine.
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We run a clinic in Garberville where we consult with clients about a wide range of conditions
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and we manufacture all our own certified organic herbal extracts which are either grown on
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our CCUF certified herb farm or which are sourced from other USA certified organic supplies.
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So you're listening to Ask Your Herb Doctor on KMED Garberville 91.1 FM.
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And from 7.15 today until the end of the show at 8 o'clock, you're invited to call in with
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any questions either related or unrelated to this month's last minute topic as it were
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of the unfolding facts in Japan.
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I think first and foremost we want to extend our heartfelt sincere wishes for the people
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of Japan that their country could recover and the people there can find relief from
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a lack of food and shelter and protection and help from all the sources possible to
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help them cope with this disaster.
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So last Friday there was a 8.9 or 9.0 earthquake which resulted in a tsunami and the tsunami
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had the unfortunate effect of causing a fairly catastrophic breakdown in the cooling system
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of Fukushima nuclear power plant.
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We're going to be joined in a moment here by Dr. Raymond Peat who's an expert physiologist,
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chemist, research scientist and we're going to be hearing from Dr. Raymond Peat about
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some helpful things to do to counter any potential radioactive spread to this country.
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It was probably earlier in the week that I first started finding some internet-based
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evidence to show that the spread of radiation from the steam leaked from the plant subsequent
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to the explosions, the hydrogen explosions on the actual buildings, not the containment
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vessel for the reactor but the buildings that house all of the reactor and all the machinery,
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that that steam was laden with things like iodine 131 and cesium isotopes and that these
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had been released in the steam cloud as the engineers desperately tried to lower the pressure
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by allowing the steam from the reactor to leave so it didn't cause any further breakdown
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of the containment vessel which would certainly result in fairly widespread and very damaging
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radioactive release.
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And one of the reactors, number three, the mixed oxide fuel reactor that contained the
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plutonium, 6% plutonium and 94% uranium, that would lead to a much more serious environmental
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damage if that was released.
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OK, so we started coming out on Wednesday, I think it was, I first started seeing some
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spreading clouds, as it were, in colour showing a potential spread to the East Coast and then
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the CTBTO from Vienna released information and it became widespread public knowledge.
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It was no longer something that was on the fringes but fairly widespread public knowledge
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and today, that was on Thursday, and today on Friday quite a few government agencies
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are also admitting this.
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So on Wednesday or Tuesday of last week they started saying that the radioactive components
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would be in the upper atmosphere, spread by the jet stream, moving east and due to hit
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the Aleutian Islands on Thursday and then be on the West Coast of America with a spread
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potentially from Oregon down to California.
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So yesterday I read the CTBTO report online and indeed this cloud was coming fairly close
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and was expected to make landfall by Friday.
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So funnily enough today in Sacramento, now the CTBTO is the centre of the, basically
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the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Organisation that was set up to monitor the atmosphere for radioactive
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particles, isotopes, emissions from nuclear testing.
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There's a comprehensive test ban on nuclear explosions and these sites, there are 60 of
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them around the world, and these sites actually measure radiation released from nuclear explosions.
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So the ones in the Pacific were starting to detect this and actually in Vienna they released
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the information.
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I think it was, I don't know if it was a mole or an insider who just wanted to make sure
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that it got out because as well as radioactive data, the CTBTO collects geophysical information,
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so it's seismic activity, tsunami activity, and on top of that the third thing they do
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is maintain and monitor any radioactive release as a telltale signature from nuclear explosions.
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Okay so they started picking this up and then on Thursday it was released from Vienna and
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they said on Friday it would be making landfall in California and actually today one of the
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CTBTO stations based in Sacramento actually recorded a very small, so although they're
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very small, they're present particles of iodine, I-131, and so it's fairly real that what we
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have in the upper air jet stream and/or coming down in the rain is potentially going to land
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here and that's something we should just be aware of.
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At this point in time it's still, I would safely say, still fairly small but it's certainly
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coming this way all the time now.
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It's made its first landfall from when it first started and the fires broke out on Saturday
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or Sunday of last week and so for the last five days the cloud trail's been coming east.
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So I want to...
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We're joined by Dr. Ray Peat today and I want to introduce Dr. Peat and then also ask him
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from his sources if he believes it true that the radioactive iodine has reached our land
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yet.
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It's probably present in detectable amounts but probably not yet biologically significant
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but it could quickly become concentrated enough to affect pregnant women because the fetus
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concentrates elements from the environment at least 100 times faster than other tissues
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and so during the first two or three months after an accident like that there will be
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a radioactive iodine which would be concentrating in the embryo and fetus.
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Other isotopes such as cesium and strontium would continue to be dangerous if they got
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into the food supply but the radioactive iodine is one that's most crucial for developing
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babies.
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So Dr. Peat, we wanted to go over and discuss what different foods and nutrients could help
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protect us from increasing levels if it does increase or more dangerous levels of radioactive
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iodine that may be present and/or cesium and/or strontium from this cloud that is coming over
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from Japan and we wanted to go through the list of different things that specifically
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can block those radioactive particles as well as in general what nutrients are protective.
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The first principle is to dilute the radioactive isotopes with good stable or relatively stable
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isotopes and so old food is best.
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The iodine radioactive isotope is practically all gone after three months after the production
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of it and the others will eventually tend to wash down into the ground and so the plants
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that grow in the first few months after an accident will contain those isotopes.
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So if you have canned food, dried milk or aged cheese, these are very safe and will
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continue to be safe for months because they were produced before the accident.
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The other principle besides diluting the isotopes is to increase your resistance to stress and
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radiation and it happened that my very first newsletter 30 years ago was on radiation resistance
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and what to do in case of a nuclear accident and at that time I reviewed a couple thousand
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research articles both from the old AEC, Atomic Energy Commission research and a lot of it
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from the Soviet research and the main conclusions that I found were that increasing the metabolic
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rate which causes cells to retain magnesium.
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Magnesium is very important in repairing cell damage and the faster the metabolic rate is
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generally the more damage can be repaired before it becomes established as a stress
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factor in the organism.
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The high metabolic rate produces carbon dioxide which has an antioxidant, anti-stress effect
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all through the organism so if you keep your metabolic rate up and eat a balanced diet,
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your tissues are going to retain magnesium it needs out of the food and produce the carbon
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dioxide it needs assuming that you're getting adequate protein, sugar, fat, vitamins and
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balance of minerals.
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So you mentioned to me earlier that there are ways and foods that we can eat to keep
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our metabolic rate high as along with taking thyroid so can you expand on what types of
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sugars and fats and proteins we should be ingesting?
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The ideal fat is coconut oil because the short chain saturated fatty acids compete with the
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other fats that normally are slowing metabolism and oxidative metabolism and so for a couple
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hours after you eat more or less a tablespoon of coconut oil per meal, for a couple hours
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your metabolic rate is increased producing more carbon dioxide and accelerating cell
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repair processes.
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The fruits that come from the tropics, the farther south the fruit is grown, the longer
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it will be free of this high latitude Japanese radiation.
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So oranges grown in Mexico, Brazil and Florida are still going to be pretty pure in terms
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of radiation for a very long time and the sugar and the minerals in oranges are very
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close to what we need.
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So coconut oil, orange juice and milk is a good source of calcium.
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During the atmospheric bomb test in the 50s and 60s, I got interested in the study the
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government was doing or they were doing it secretly before it became public for a long
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time that they were collecting baby teeth from around the world to measure the fallout
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effect and the government began recommending that people not drink milk because milk was
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contaminated with the strontium which was taken up along with the calcium.
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I looked at the actual analysis of the food value as well as the isotope content of vegetables
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and found that a person getting their nutrition from vegetables was going to have about five
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times higher exposure to strontium-90 than people who got their nutrition primarily from
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milk and cheese because the cows were able to concentrate the calcium and filter out
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a little more of the strontium than the vegetables were doing.
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You mentioned to me that in order to get enough calcium to protect against your body's own
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bone destruction that you would have to drink one to two quarts and eat some cheese daily
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and that same amount of calcium from green leafy vegetables would be about three pounds
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of spinach per day.
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Something like that, yeah.
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And then the fact that you're eating so much spinach that could have been contaminated
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with strontium, you'd actually be exposing yourself to much higher levels of strontium.
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Yeah.
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Can you talk to us about what you'd recommend for elimination methods like if we are breathing
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in or ingesting radioactive particles, what's the best elimination method you find to take?
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Because I know there's a lot of stuff on the internet about all these different things
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you can take that will help bind the radioactive particles, but what do you recommend, Dr.
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Peat?
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Well, if it gets into your digestive system, if it's coming in incorporated in the food,
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there's really no way to sort it out.
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But if it's in the water, for example, if you can just keep a lot of fiber flowing through
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your system, eating fruit that you know isn't contaminated, carrots, for example, if you
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know that they're safely grown uncontaminated, will the material through your intestine preventing
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the absorption of some nutrients at the same time that if you're exposed to a very concentrated
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dose from rain or something, it's better to go hungry for a little while while sweeping
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out your intestine.
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So would you consider, just to kind of go back a little bit here, but would you consider
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the radiation that we might have been exposed to thus far dangerous enough to avoid drinking
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any milk and eating any vegetables from California and Oregon?
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Oh, no, not yet.
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Not yet.
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If it becomes, if the reactors start burning fuel rods, someone is likely to leak the information
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in time that people can take precautions.
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But if it reached the proportions of Chernobyl, then it would take extreme measures for a
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very long time using only stored antique food.
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The older food would become more valuable.
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So it sounds like we need to start stocking up on sugar and dried milk powder.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And other things that can help move things along in the intestine are all the various
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liver herbs and cascara bark powder at all speeds intestinal transit time.
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But I did want to ask you, Dr. Peat, there's a lot of hype around people using potassium
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iodide already and it's selling out of the stores and people using kelp.
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And can you please explain to our listeners how taking kelp or the potassium iodide supplement
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would help protect them against the high amount of radioactive iodine in our environment?
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Well, simply dilute the radioactive isotope.
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When you're taking in a lot of old stable iodine, it saturates your thyroid.
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Your thyroid shuts down and stops taking up anymore.
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And so you can add radioactive iodine to a saturated person and it just gradually washes
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out without concentrating at a very high level in the thyroid.
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But if a person is deficient in iodine, almost all of it will, once it gets into the bloodstream,
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it'll stick in the thyroid gland and give an extremely high dose to the gland and even
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more so to a developing embryo's thyroid gland.
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The fetus will concentrate even more than the mother's thyroid.
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The potassium iodide is very good protection only from the damage to the thyroid gland.
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It doesn't do anything at all to protect against the other isotopes or the other tissues of
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the body, as some people are saying on the internet.
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In fact, probably if you took it more than enough to saturate your tissues, the Center
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for Disease Control advocates 160 milligrams one dose.
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If you took that much every day for a long time, your thyroid gland would shut down,
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your metabolism would slow down, and all of your defensive reactions would slow down.
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So you'd become more susceptible to injury throughout the rest of your body.
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So you're not recommending that people take any kelp powder or potassium iodide at this
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current level?
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No.
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Just the minimum requirement is only 150 or 200 micrograms.
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And even one milligram per day continued for a very long time increases the risk of damage
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to the thyroid gland.
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Thyroiditis appears increasingly when people just a milligram of iodine or more.
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And do you know the measurements on how much is in kelp powder?
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How many milligrams is in a teaspoon of kelp or a half teaspoon of kelp?
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No, but probably a half teaspoon.
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I think people have calculated that it would take an ounce to be equal to the Center for
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Disease Control amount, but probably a half teaspoon is adequate to saturate most people.
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But only once we have more information saying there is actually elevated levels of radioactive
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iodine in our environment?
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Yeah.
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So a half teaspoon dose isn't going to hurt anyone, but you don't want to do that every
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day for a long time.
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Andrew, did you have a question?
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No, I think what was, like you were saying, the rush on buying potassium iodide was pretty
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apparent.
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I know I saw plenty of information regarding that.
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And the thing with iodine, if I'm right in saying this, Dr. Peat, is that the radioactive
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iodine that was present in Chernobyl was also responsible for the big increase in thyroid
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cancers.
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And now you're saying that pregnant women are actually more susceptible even than young
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children.
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Yeah, Ernest Sternglass, who got interested in the issue when they were doing atmospheric
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bomb tests.
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The government timed their bomb tests in Nevada so that the wind wasn't blowing towards the
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big California cities.
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They wanted all of the fallout to go into Utah, and the population of Utah suffered
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the most from autoimmune diseases and cancer and other diseases.
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But occasionally the rainfall would be so light that no fallout would come down until
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it got to the East Coast.
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And one of these times, Ernest Sternglass had his students studying how to use their
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Geiger counters, and they found that there was a terrific amount of radiation at the
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university, which the government hadn't mentioned to anyone.
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And that got him studying it and paying attention to how dishonest the U.S. Public Health Service
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and Atomic Energy Commission and state public health officials were.
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But he showed that probably there were tens of thousands of miscarriages, and the babies
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that survived a very high percentage were hypothyroid.
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Even there was an epidemic of babies born without their thyroid glands.
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And as long as they were being breastfed, the mother's thyroid was entering the milk
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at a high enough level to cover up the symptoms.
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So as soon as they were weaned, they were discovered not to have thyroid glands.
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Going back to cover-ups or suppression of information, I found it quite interesting
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from the moment the tsunami happened and the evolving situation of Fukushima was passing
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day by day with ever increasing explosions, etc.
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I found the most information, funnily enough, coming from Russia Today.
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That news agency there, I think, probably not suppressed so much by the West as the
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BBC even.
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I found the BBC's coverage was pretty good, but I found Russia Today, their coverage was
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pretty excellent.
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And they had the most up-to-date information, I presume because the time zone there was
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much more on a par with Japan.
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So in the waking hours, they were picking up the information as soon as it was being
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released from sources in Japan.
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But I wonder what would be the best, I guess to keep monitoring Russia Today, but the best
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source for people in America to be able to find out more about local results with real
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time and real figures to show what actually is in the environment.
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I wonder what would be the best way to go about doing that.
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I don't remember the web address, but there is a good nuclear site, basically an anti-nuclear
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power site that is getting up-to-date information.
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The other thing was I was looking on eBay Geiger counters of all things just to see.
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They're out there, there's hundreds of them on eBay, and they're not expensive.
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And I think a lot of them are post-Cold War, post-Three Mile Island.
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So getting hold of a Geiger counter to actually do some physical measurements yourself.
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For a while, the internet stores were selling old Soviet Geiger counters for about $15.
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And someone just told me that she and her neighbor had bought two for $35.
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And as soon as the radiation scare hit, the price went up to $75.
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Oh my gosh.
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Okay, because I saw them on eBay and they were going for about $150 to $200.
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And these were, I can get hold of the information pretty quick, but they were all fairly similar.
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They're kind of bright yellow and maybe about the size of an egg carton.
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So I'm actually holding mine right here, which I got on the internet.
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I could have paid anywhere.
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I got the cheapest basically, which cost me about $250.
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I did see even cheaper ones other places, but the really good expensive ones cost $10,000
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to $20,000.
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And the little booklet I got with this, I can tell some kinds of radiation from other
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kinds.
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But I basically have it beeping and I got it to check out both industrial metals and
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phosphate fertilizers.
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And I did find some things which are definitely hot by mine.
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It's not beeping much more than normal right now.
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All right, let's get back to some of those things that people can do.
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We do have a caller on the line, but I did want to at least go through a few more of
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the anti-radiation nutrients.
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Dr. Peate, caffeine, there's lots of information out there about tea and coffee.
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And can you describe to us briefly what the nutrients are in the tea and the coffee and
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how caffeine helps protect against radiation?
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Coffee is a good source of magnesium and of some B vitamins, niacin especially, and the
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caffeine anti-inflammatory and antioxidant.
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So if you happen to have some mobile isotopes that are still in your bloodstream and going
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through your kidneys, caffeine helps to flush them out faster and safely.
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It has a slight chelating effect as well as anti-inflammatory.
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And, sorry, carry on.
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The things that have an anti-estrogen effect as well as anti-inflammatory, the radiation
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effect itself imitates estrogen in the body.
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Everything that estrogen does can be imitated by radiation, including making a rat go into
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estrus, for example.
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And if you're in a high estrogen state, then you're more susceptible to radiation injury.
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And that's why progesterone and thyroid and caffeine, by helping to lower estrogen and
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inflammation are protective against radiation too.
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So just to recap those, you said caffeine, coffee, because it contains the magnesium
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and B vitamins, progesterone to block the estrogenic effects of radiation, other antioxidants
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like vitamin E also blocks the effects of estrogen and helps with radiation, and vitamin
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C and orange juice and tropical fruits, vitamin A found in eggs and liver helps in the repair
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processes.
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I wanted to briefly ask you about the glutathione, that that's been touted to help with radiation
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damages.
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There's a lot of confusion around glutathione because anything that harms your cells turns
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on a defensive reaction and increases the glutathione.
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And so a lot of things that have exactly the wrong effect are being suggested on the basis
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of increasing glutathione.
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Many harmful things by stimulating that defense reaction will increase glutathione.
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And taking a large dose of glutathione in itself, animal studies showed that it could
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be carcinogenic to the liver just by starting free radical reactions rather than stopping
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them.
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Other anti-inflammatories that can help protect against radiation, aspirin, of course, which
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comes from white willow bark, well not anymore, but originated from white willow bark.
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Also ginkgo, turmeric, those are other herbal anti-inflammatories.
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Various adaptogenic adrenal herbs, aluthrowroot, American and Korean ginseng have been shown
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to help with radiation sickness.
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And we mentioned the B vitamins already.
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I wanted you, Dr. Friedt, to talk to us about animal liver, which contains a lot of B vitamins
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and the fat-soluble A, D, E, and K vitamins and why, contrary to popular opinion, it's
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actually less toxic than the other parts of the animal.
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Yeah, the liver is the main detoxifying organ.
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Kidneys and brain have some of the same detoxifying enzymes, but the liver is where a great bulk
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of detoxification happens.
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And there have been studies in which beef were going into the slaughterhouse, their
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urine, blood, and tissues were measured.
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And the large proportion of the animals, more than a third, showed chemical contamination
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in the blood and urine.
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And practically all of them had the same chemicals in their fat and muscle tissues, the meats
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that are most popular.
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Only a very tiny proportion still had any of the toxic chemicals left in their liver.
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For the first 24 hours after you're exposed to an insecticide, for example, it will collect
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in the liver and be bound to a certain kind of protein.
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During this first day in which it's collecting at a high concentration in the liver, the
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liver begins destroying it.
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And after just about 24 hours, the liver has cleaned itself and then begins a slow process
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of cleaning the blood as it draws toxins out of the muscles and fat tissues.