antergos-gnome-meta > pamac tray is invisible on default GNOME installation.

[killajoe]

pamac tray do not work without topicons-plus and the package (topicons) from Antergos-Repo do not work:

https://forum.antergos.com/compose?p=/topic/8763/antergos-gnome-17-12-missing-libs-right-after-fresh-install/27

What happens?

1. pamac tray is invisible on default GNOME installation.
   1a. topicons-plus and chrome-gnome-shell is not installed by default GNOME installation!
2. installing topicons from Antergos-Repo and enable it
   2a. still no pamac tray icon visible.
3. Uninstalling topicons package and use topicons-plus directly from gnome-shell-extensions side works without a problem!

[karasu]

There's something wrong with that package. I did confirm it a few days ago (so it should be available), but it hasn't been moved by the ABS (it's still in the antergos staging repo).

staging repo version 1:21-1
normal repo version 1:20-1

@lots0logs please, can you fix this?

(also, it's showing the "updating antergos-staging repo database...." message all the time).

[killajoe]

21 is still not come into normal repo... updkg is from 17.9.2017:

[ANTBS] | [updpkg] gnome-shell-extension-topicons ('20', '21') master 1 parent 8565a0e commit 9f4e717566aba159c6a10f500ded9b6a28713a59 @antbs antbs committed on 17 Sep 2017

But also maintainer stops developing Topicons-Plus:

This repository has been archived by the owner. It is now read-only.

phocean/TopIcons-plus#91

I can see on local building that md5sums changed...

md5sums=('fb49eafbe269ad303ab347f2ef5e2dee')

[killajoe]

As we mainly need this for pamac-tray-icon, may there is a possibillity to get it working without legacy-tray-icon?

[killajoe]

Manjaro uses this one: https://github.com/manjaro/packages-community/tree/master/gnome/gnome-shell-extension-manjaro-update

[karasu]

It's this one "rebranded": https://github.com/RaphaelRochet/arch-update

Added (will show Arch icons and not Antergos ones) here: 49a9e05

Still on staging only. Needs testing.

[killajoe]

I see this too after cloning from manjaro...
I will try out, may I already see how to change icons😑

[killajoe]

still an issue ;)

[luisfpg]

Starting with GNOME 3.28, legacy tray support was completely dropped.
Also, topicons will not work again.
Ubuntu uses the appindicator extension: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/615/appindicator-support/
Pamac already ships the pamac-tray-appindicator extension for KDE support.
Maybe a better option would be to enable that one for GNOME as well;
I did it by editing /etc/xdg/autostart/pamac-tray.desktop and /etc/xdg/autostart/pamac-tray-appindicator.desktop and just replaced KDE; by KDE;GNOME; in both OnlyShowIn and NotShowIn.
Of course, I think Antergos should ship the indicators extension by default instead of TopIconsPlus, as it is non-funcional nowadays anyway...

[killajoe]

nice find! i will check this!

[killajoe]

This is an very easy and working solution! thanks @luisfpg !!

• canging
  /etc/xdg/autostart/pamac-tray.desktop to do not show in Gnome

• installing pamac-tray-appindicator
  and change
  /etc/xdg/autostart/pamac-tray-appindicator.desktop
  to also start in GNOME

[luisfpg]

For a general replacement of the indicator extension over TopIconsPlus, there's a catch on applications that use electron, such as Skype, because of this bug: electron/electron#10427
Electron uses a dummy way to check whether indicators are supported: testing the XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP environment variable. If running on Unity, Pantheon, Ubuntu's GNOME or PopOS's GNOME, it enables indicators.
So, to make such applications work, one has to fool them by setting the proper environment variable. So, for example, I've made a copy of my $HOME/.config/autostart/skypeforlinux.desktop to some other name (because Skype will override it) and replaced the Exec line by this: Exec=env XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity /usr/bin/skypeforlinux.
This way the icon is correctly shown.
I hope the electron bug can be resolved quickly, so no workarounds are needed for users to see the (ever growing list of) electron apps icons in the panel.
Other applications, such as Dropbox or Chromium show their icons as indicators out of the box.

[killajoe]

i would like to get this installed by default on Antergos Gnome setup :)

[luisfpg]

There is still another thing to consider when implementing this: KDE Plasma's implementation of StatusNotifierItem seems to be broader than the one in Unity / GNOME extension.
For example, in Plasma, a specific event is triggered on click, whereas in Unity / GNOME the menu is shown as well. If I'm not mistaken, in Plasma, when left-clicking the icon, Pamac opens with the Updates tab open, so they can be applied.
In GNOME extension, however, clicking brings up the menu, which has the menu items "Package manager" and "Quit" (maybe not exactly the same text because I use it in Portuguese). And clicking on "Package manager" opens Pamac in the standard install mode, not on updates.
So, I suggest to also add another item in the SNI's context menu to open Pamac in update mode already.
Otherwise, people would get confused on how to install the actual updates.

[killajoe]

yes i can see thios in gnome-shell left and right click on the icon open the menu

[killajoe]

So, I suggest to also add another item in the SNI's context menu to open Pamac in update mode already.

can you make this more clear to me ;)

[luisfpg]

So, I suggest to also add another item in the SNI's context menu to open Pamac in update mode already.

can you make this more clear to me ;)

There are 2 menu items when clicking the pamac indicator:

• Package manager
• Quit

Selecting "Package manager" opens pamac not in the Update model, but as if one would install another application.

My proposal is to have the following menu structure when there are updates available:

• Show updates
• Package manager
• Quit

So the user knows that right after clicking the first menu item, the available updates will be shown. BTW, in KDE, that is exactly what happens when clicking the icon (left clicking is not supported in Unity / GNOME extension - it just shows the menu as if one would have right clicked).

[killajoe]

Like This?

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Update Notifier Appindicator
Icon=update-notifier
Exec=env XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity pamac-tray-appindicator
Terminal=false
Type=Application
StartupNotify=true
OnlyShowIn=GNOME;

[luisfpg]

For pamac you don't need env XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity

Would be something like:

$HOME/.config/autostart/pamac-tray-appindicator.desktop:

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Update Notifier Appindicator
Icon=update-notifier
Exec=pamac-tray-appindicator
Terminal=false
Type=Application
StartupNotify=true
OnlyShowIn=KDE;GNOME;

$HOME/.config/autostart/pamac-tray.desktop:

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Update Notifier
Icon=update-notifier
Exec=sh -c "GDK_BACKEND=x11 pamac-tray"
Terminal=false
Type=Application
StartupNotify=false
NotShowIn=KDE;GNOME;

[killajoe]

ah yes i got it... i do not get where the menu is edited.. i was thinking that the XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP will give the gtk dialogues instead of the qt ones :(

[killajoe]

https://github.com/manjaro/pamac/blob/master/src/tray-appindicator.vala

[killajoe]

No package manager showing up to show available updates for default GNOME Desktop....
We should solve this.

[killajoe]

gnome-shell-extension-topicons-plus-git from AUR is working nicely on a tryout at the moment....
so may merging this to build a package and adding it to GNOME desktop?

[killajoe]

someone is developing topicons again now>
https://gitlab.com/pop-planet/TopIcons-Redux

[killajoe]

but i see this today in tweaks -- extensions:

enable it and got this:

[killajoe]

Not needed anymore as there is an extension for pamac tray icon on its own now...
This could be enabled by default on GNOME install ...