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Feature Request - Ingest polygons from Marine Regions as Fun and Flexible Features #6930

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Jegelewicz opened this issue Nov 6, 2023 · 6 comments
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Blocked Issue cannot be addressed until another Issue (which should be linked) is addressed. Enhancement I think this would make Arctos even awesomer! Function-Locality/Event/Georeferencing Function-SearchOrDownload
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Jegelewicz commented Nov 6, 2023

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Find everything from "Atlantic Ocean"

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Enhance search for marine geography without adding to higher geography authorities.

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Ingest polygons from Marine Regions as Fun and Flexible Features

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There is no good alternative as right now the higher geography for the Atlantic is split between North Atlantic and South Atlantic

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@ArctosDB/geo-group

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I think that maybe we should make narrower requests since marine regions is an aggregation.

@dustymc dustymc added the Blocked Issue cannot be addressed until another Issue (which should be linked) is addressed. label Nov 7, 2023
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dustymc commented Nov 7, 2023

Blocked by #6521 (and perhaps a general lack of performance, although I can't quite correlate that with data quantity).

narrower requests

I'll need a shapefile (or something else that my limited tools can handle) if I get past the immediate obstacles, that'll probably scope the request(s).

This would also be some unknown amount of disk (for data and indexes-n-such), take more backup, need more memory to avoid swap, etc. - it's a potentially significant long-term cost, that should be somehow addressed up front. (The cost seems well worth paying from here, the benefits would be pretty awesome - if this could be made performant, anyway - but I'm not signing the checks!)

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The cost seems well worth paying from here, the benefits would be pretty awesome - if this could be made performant, anyway - but I'm not signing the checks!

It is the cost that makes me think we should not import marine regions wholesale, but only things the member institutions actually need.

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mkoo commented Nov 8, 2023

Working on the FFF= POLYGONS for this.

Will definitely be part of BerkeleyMapper's intersection tool, too

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dustymc commented Nov 8, 2023

cost that makes me think we should not import marine regions wholesale,

Well one way to pay that might be to loop marinregions into #5597 (eg some big collaborative grant) - maybe they'd like to not have to worry about infrastructure, and I'm pretty sure TACC has a few billion GPU cycles laying around getting bored....

https://www.marineregions.org/about.php (maybe they're already drowning in €s....)

That'd also mean BM wouldn't need to do all the stuff Arctos has already done.

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It is the cost that makes me think we should not import marine regions wholesale, but only things the member institutions actually need.

Here are a few to start with that are quite relevant to DMNS:Inv data:

https://www.marineregions.org/gazetteer.php?p=details&id=7579 - Great Barrier Reef (n=377)

https://www.marineregions.org/gazetteer.php?p=details&id=7587 - Peru-Chile Trench (used in https://arctos.database.museum/guid/DMNS:Inv:26912

https://www.marineregions.org/gazetteer.php?p=details&id=8453 - United States Exclusive Economic Zone (Hawaii) (several hundred)

@dustymc dustymc modified the milestones: Needs Discussion, Tabled Aug 20, 2024
@dustymc dustymc closed this as completed Aug 20, 2024
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