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Export loan parameters with parts #8267

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happiah-madson opened this issue Nov 5, 2024 · 5 comments
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Export loan parameters with parts #8267

happiah-madson opened this issue Nov 5, 2024 · 5 comments
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Accessibility Issue is related to Arctos accessibility. Data Quality Let's talk! GH comments are exhausted; to be discussed in realtime Priority-High (Needed for work) High because this is causing a delay in important collection work.. User experience Issues related to user experience difficulties

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Tell us what you are trying to do

When I am querying the collection for a user, I need to be able to easily determine the constraints of permits. These constraints largely fall into 4 categories:

  1. no restrictions (just the standard terms of our MTA).
  2. attribution for material usage.
  3. notification and attribution for material usage.
  4. extremely complex restrictions (recipient needs to have a permit to use the materials/CITES or ESA is implicated/it's a marine mammal/etc. etc. etc.)

I need to be able to see this information when I export parts to send someone who wants to loan materials so that we can ensure that the correct constraints are being written into our MTAs. It is not feasible for me to click into every Accession and review permits (every accession should have at least 1 documenting the transfer of the materials into the collection), especially the way they are set up right now (see: ArctosDB/dev#98)

I've spoken to @mkoo and @campmlc about this and our need to make permits functional. If I can't interact with them in records and parts, I don't know why we would spend the time to enter them. @campmlc suggested entering a permit and then simultaneously entering an encumberance that annotates the consequences of the permit (must have attribution; no material transfer without prior approval, etc.) but that seems like double the work and no clear link between the permit and the encumbrance (which is public, and so seem real weird).

What are relevant pages in Arctos

Provide a link to or a description of the page where you need help.

@happiah-madson happiah-madson added Priority-High (Needed for work) High because this is causing a delay in important collection work.. Data Quality Accessibility Issue is related to Arctos accessibility. User experience Issues related to user experience difficulties labels Nov 5, 2024
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dustymc commented Nov 5, 2024

that seems like double the work

and a near-certainty of NOT doing both things from time to time - #8241

encumbrance (which is public

the existence and nature of, yes - not the details - still #8241

I keep thinking I hear (latest right ^^ there!) 'we want use restrictions drawn from permits and summarized in various UI' and I've proposed the structure to do that (and publicly, but that's not strictly necessary, it would just possibly make things nicer for your users, all UI is details at this point) but it seems that's not quite right (or this issue wouldn't have been opened??) so I'm stuck.

I suspect we're not communicating effectively in this medium and a Committee (hoping a very short-lived one, but we could find out...) to find common ground is the best place to go from here.

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happiah-madson commented Nov 5, 2024

I suspect we're not communicating effectively in this medium and a Committee (hoping a very short-lived one, but we could find out...) to find common ground is the best place to go from here.

This makes sense to me! I don't know how to get that started, is there something I should do?

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(also 100% correct re: and a near-certainty of NOT doing both things from time to time)!!!!!

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dustymc commented Nov 5, 2024

know how to get that started

I don't either, but please add it to https://github.com/ArctosDB/internal/issues/356 when you do! (I hadn't considered that aspect of things, but I think it should be part of the same hopeful-document.)

100% correct re: and a near-certainty

I know! That's very nearly always involved in any technical objections I'm forced to lodge.

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mkoo commented Nov 6, 2024

This is on the agenda for Thursday

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