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Tinkers' Compliment's High Oven gives 2.5x ore easily early game #1582

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SSyl opened this issue Mar 23, 2020 · 4 comments
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Tinkers' Compliment's High Oven gives 2.5x ore easily early game #1582

SSyl opened this issue Mar 23, 2020 · 4 comments
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@SSyl
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SSyl commented Mar 23, 2020

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1.77

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  1. Tinkers' Compliment's High Oven gives 2.5x ore and is easily made very early in the game. All you need to make it is Scorched Bricks, which is just Seared Stone poured over a minecraft brick using the Smeltery. Essentially, as soon as you get a Tinker's Construct Smeltery you're just minutes away from having the capability to get 2.5x the ingot yield per ore.

  2. In addition, the High Oven lets you put in 1x Iron Ore, 1x Gunpowder, 1x Redstone, 1x Sand to get 2.5 ingots of Steel. This essentially allows you to bypass using the Coke Oven and Blast Furnace as well as letting you get 2.5x ingots of Steel per single Iron Ore.

  3. It also allows you to melt Redstone into Destabilized Redstone giving you early access to Signalum. However, that's fairly minor since you can't do much with Signalum until you get to Thermal Expansion anyway.

Suggested Solutions

  1. You can tweak the ore to ingot ratio in the tcomplement.cfg file. I think that setting it to 1.0 would put it in balance with the rest of the early game ore processing.

  2. You'd have to use CraftTweaker to disable the creation of steel in the high oven. Although, if you did set the ore to ingot ratio to 1.0 it should deter anyone from bothering with the high oven to make steel since the material cost would outweigh using the Coke Oven + Blast Furnace.
    Removing it using CraftTweaker seems as simple as this:

import mods.tcomplement.highoven.HighOven;

// HighOven.removeMixRecipe(ILiquidStack output, @Optional ILiquidStack input);
HighOven.removeMixRecipe(<liquid:steel>); // disable any steel-producing mix recipe
  1. You can probably leave the Destabilized Redstone melting as is unless I'm missing some hidden use for signalum.
@NielsPilgaard
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Excellent report, thank you, I'll get this fixed.

@NielsPilgaard NielsPilgaard added Bug A modpack specific bug Script This issue relates to scripts in general Config and removed Enhancement labels Mar 23, 2020
@Krutoy242
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IMHO High Oven is awkward for Ore doubling, because it have several disadvantages:

  • It have very small inside buffer - Oven capped in size (can be only 3x3) so 1 slot for 8 scorched bricks block
  • 2.5 doubling causing excess liquid left inside often
  • Small Plate Presser relatively cheap too (need 6 more iron to make), but doubling ore way too faster (about 3 ticks / ore)

@NielsPilgaard
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Duely noted, but it is unintentional that it can 2.5x ores - Maybe 1.5x would be fine.

@NielsPilgaard NielsPilgaard added the Status: Ready For Testing In-game testing of the issue is required label Mar 28, 2020
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I decided to remove the High Oven completely.

@NielsPilgaard NielsPilgaard added Status: Fixed In Next Release This issue has been fixed in the next (unreleased) version of the pack and removed Config Status: Ready For Testing In-game testing of the issue is required labels Mar 29, 2020
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