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Explore options to signify VM ownership of windows/widgets/functionality, other than color #5532
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For windows, the titlebars also have a But yes tray icons, popups (such as notifications etc.) seem to signify ownership only via color. For this reason, in all my VM scripts I also print |
It's not just popups. Some apps use windows with an "override redirect" flag to implement fullscreen mode, menus, context menus, popups and possibly other features. Right now the ownership of an override redirect window is signaled via a 2-pixel color border. Until someone figures out a better way to handle the flag we have to have some way to signal ownership of a rectangle that a qube can put anywhere on the screen, make as big or small as it wishes and that the user does not expect to have a title. |
Sooo... backing-up from the intent of the colored windows feature, an important consideration I feel the current approach and many contemplations of improvement have not considered, are the limitations of Human Working Memory. Limitations that could never, ever meaningfully track security concepts associated to dozens of "threat classes" of VMs. While I have not had the time to dig deeply into this, it has stood-out to me as a consistently absent reality-check that is badly needed to better align the reality of human cognition with the goals of "give meaning to everything so we can know everything" that Qubes has been built with. Even if/when everything is clearly and consistently labeled in an appealing fashion: the human brain has its limits with how and what it can meaningfully track. At what point is it sought to allow a user to track all the things versus to discipline users to only track what they can meaningfully work with? How to do that, is a gnarly design problem I would actually like to get funding to properly tackle within Qubes. This article from Scientific American provides a good overview to the concept of Working Memory. The theory's Wikipedia article is here. Quoting Jeff Goldblum's character from Jurassic Park: just because you can (build something a certain way) doesn't mean that you should. Which is rarely a straight-forward conundrum to resolve, because there will always be compelling reasons to build something. The should has to consider effectiveness within limitations, however—and with the goals of this central attribute to Qubes, the greatest limitation is the brains of new and experienced users, alike. Not the technology itself. |
1) Custom icons for the VM
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I don't think this one was implemented yet @andrewdavidwong. What has changed sinced? VM ownership is still represented by color mainly and those colors are rather limited. Maybe it makes sense to close this in favor of other issues (like #6752, #2523 or #6526) |
The action for this issue is "explore options." It looked to me like the options had been explored and that exploration had ceased some time ago. If there's some follow-up action (like "decide which option to pursue" or "implement the chosen option"), I reckon that should be a separate issue. |
By explore options, I assume the tasks is not just to explore options but also to decide on one or more to pursue. As such I think if this is to be closed, it should have some decision as to which options will be implemented or maybe a even a WONTFIX, if that's the case. |
That's a fair point, but in that case, this seems more like a "discussion issue" that's unsuitable for qubes-issues. It seems like this should instead be discussed on qubes-devel or the forum until there is some actionable proposal, then that actionable proposal can be filed as a legitimate issue. |
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Problem
VM ownership is clearly a very important thing in Qubes. 20% of all humans are estimated to have some degree of color-blindness. Disambiguating between green, red, and blue, is very difficult, for most of that crowd. Likewise, there are currently only 8 colors—and it's a known cognitive limitation that even if more colors existed, the human brain can only track so much.
Solution
Let's use this Issue to track the task of finding a better solution than color!
For this Task, no code allowed—just explorations of how to do this well via mockups, critique, Invision prototypes, and feesability insights w/ possible code explorations.
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