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General discussion #4

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SOF3 opened this issue Aug 4, 2016 · 9 comments
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General discussion #4

SOF3 opened this issue Aug 4, 2016 · 9 comments

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SOF3 commented Aug 4, 2016

This issue exists to allow uncategorized discussion of the wiki, without the cost of starting another issue.

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SOF3 commented Aug 7, 2016

@CaitiffMCPE Actually, my concept of common sense is to create a standard, or a set of less strict forum rules/etiquette that the majority of the community agrees to follow, so as to prevent any unnecessary argument or misunderstanding.

Your second comment very well can be a great elaboration about the disadvantages of populism or cyber bullying. But how is it related to this wiki? This wiki is a product of community that aims for integration. We recommend following this wiki, but we certainly don't force anyone to follow them. This wiki is particularly useful when newcomers do not understand some of the common abbreviations used in this section of the web.

This wiki can serve to prevent the community's fragmentation due to generation gap (sounds hilarious, but this is true). While the time keeps on going in the long term, this wiki both helps newcomers to integrate into our community as well as help the elder members understand how the conventions are being changed. This is for mutual integration.

On the other hand, this wiki is actually about the values that most of us agree to have, something that already existed before being written out. This is why a "Controversy" label exists. If there is any controversy, we aren't trying to forcefully integrate them together and settle the problem, much less by any authorities or any referendums or fights. Just like we aren't going to put "Everyone should write 'Amen' before ending every post" in this wiki. (Disclaimer: I don't have any religions)

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SOF3 commented Aug 7, 2016

@CaitiffMCPE If you are, you can't even comment now. Now please stop posting irrelevant comments in this issue. This issue is for discussion about the wiki, not asking whether you are banned.

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SOF3 commented Aug 9, 2016

@CaitiffMCPE Actually I think @ifvictr overdid it. We don't need abbreviations for everything, only ones that are specific to the forums and probably cause confusion. PC, OS, CPU, RAM, VPN, VPS,,etc., are all so obvious.
I originally only added FTP because of its conflict with FloatingTextParticle. Other from conflicts like this, I think that all abbreviations that you can easily find the apparent meaning from Wikipedia should be removed.

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ifvictr commented Aug 9, 2016

@SOF3 I don't think I overdid it, it may be obvious to us, but not to some people. We cannot expect everyone to have the same amount of experience as us.

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SOF3 commented Aug 10, 2016

@ifvictr but those thing are globally consistent. For example, if someone doesn't know what VPS mean, reading this wiki won't help them a lot. This wiki isn't a wiki for knowledge, but a wiki for reaching consensus, after all.

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Mention how JSON can be minified ane loaded quicker than YAML or unminified JSON.


I'm sure there's a specific name for minified JSON but i forgot it

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SOF3 commented Aug 4, 2017

@TheDiamondYT1 note that it is pointless to minimize small files. For example, on Windows, a file is saved in blocks of 4096 B iirc, i.e. if the file is smaller than 4096 B, it will still occupy 4096 B and reading that file will still read 4096 B.

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I read somewhere I think wikipedia it's more efficient to load JSON when it's minified but they had a special name for it

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SOF3 commented Aug 4, 2017

I don't think this makes sense. The cost of reading useful content from the filesystem would always be way greater than those unnecessary bytes.

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