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China Black Lotus does not get XP for attacking vehicles #416

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xezon opened this issue Sep 25, 2021 · 19 comments
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China Black Lotus does not get XP for attacking vehicles #416

xezon opened this issue Sep 25, 2021 · 19 comments
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@xezon
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xezon commented Sep 25, 2021

China Black Lotus does not get XP for attacking vehicles. Lotus will get XP for Cash Hack and Building Capture however. Lotus practically never reaches Vet 1, 2 or 3 in any regular Multiplayer match.

Note: GLA Jarmen Kell gets no XP for Vehicle attack either.

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commy2 commented Sep 25, 2021

You could disable one vehicle out of reach of your enemy and grind on it infinitely. Would not change this.

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commy2 commented Sep 25, 2021

According to Jundiyy, Lotus passes XP to the player as well, meaning that the above tactic could be even worse.

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Jundiyy commented Sep 25, 2021

Maybe a misunderstanding, she passes xp over for the ones she receives for only. So she gets it for cap building and cash hack and so does the player.

Coming to this issue itself, I don't think it's a needed one.
Would prefer to keep original if not needed.
Although not totally against it as well.


Edit: okay so you meant if we enable xp for vehicle hack then the player will get it.

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You could disable one vehicle out of reach of your enemy and grind on it infinitely.

Which would require a lot of micro / attention as well as an inattentive opponent. Players can already achieve the same effect with GLA buildings by continuously destroying them to a hole and letting them rebuild. Nobody really has time for these things at the highest levels of gameplay where a change like this really matters.

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xezon commented Sep 26, 2021

That would be similar to abusing the GLA Sneak Attack for Neutron attacks. It's a valid point. See

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Wouldnt change really, not a big problem of the game i feel

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MTKing4 commented Oct 1, 2021

Could we implement it for testing anyway to see how effective it is? With the jarmen addition as well

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commy2 commented Oct 1, 2021

Will do.

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ImTimK commented Jul 12, 2022

What is even the advantage of a vetted Lotus? Only giving off more XP when shes killed?

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xezon commented Jul 12, 2022

More health and self heal I think. Maybe faster capture too?

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Not faster capture, just more health and auto-heal

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xezon commented Jul 13, 2022

Would it be possible to change capture times on veterancy?

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ImTimK commented Jul 13, 2022

Would it be possible to change capture times on veterancy?

That would make Super Lotus OP though if vet 2 & 3 make her even faster

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xezon commented Jul 13, 2022

Depends how fast. 3 Star Jarmen also shoots faster right?

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ImTimK commented Jul 13, 2022

Depends how fast. 3 Star Jarmen also shoots faster right?

It's gonna be faster than currently and that's too fast.

Currently it's already hard to react in time if alot is going on, with some lag it's sometimes impossible to sell off your buildings even, even if you respond instantly.

Or you need to nerf current speed, but not a fan of that.

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xezon commented Jul 13, 2022

Personally I never had issues selling vs Lotus. But that may be just me then.

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ImTimK commented Jul 13, 2022

Personally I never had issues selling vs Lotus. But that may be just me then.

Guess you haven't experienced a mrs super lotus in your base under laggy circumstances then?

Or regularly play opponents who challenge your multitasking skills?

Trust me, it can be hard and stressy and any faster would be OP.

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No need to argue about it, as it is not really possible since capture building is an ability not a weapon

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xezon commented Feb 12, 2023

This was addressed. Black Lotus now gains XP with vehicle attacks.

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