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Translations in ELAN documents #21

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dasch124 opened this issue Jan 10, 2024 · 19 comments
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Translations in ELAN documents #21

dasch124 opened this issue Jan 10, 2024 · 19 comments
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dasch124 commented Jan 10, 2024

In 5 ELAN documents the translation tier seems not to be indicated as such but as a transcription tier. As a consequence, the translations appear as regular utterances (<u> elements) in the TEI output (being tokenized etc.) These documents are affected:

  • 103_tei_w/Urfa-029_Smoking-Harran-2010.xml
  • 103_tei_w/Urfa-034_Liquorice-Harran-2010.xml
  • 103_tei_w/Urfa-043_Truffle-Harran-2010.xml
  • 103_tei_w/Urfa-070_Hen_House-Harran-2010.xml
  • 103_tei_w/Urfa-075_Corn_and_Language-Harran-2010.xml

Please format them as the other ones. Thank you!

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I am trying to solve the problem

@aozanh97
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and I just pushed the changes. It should be fine now

@miriamalt
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I think it is fine now on ELAN. I changed the tier types of these 5 files.

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dasch124 commented Jan 10, 2024

Thank you, @miriamalt and @aozanh97, for looking into it!

There must be still some difference between those files and the others, because what I see is that it's only the name of the tier that as changed. Might it be that it has to be subordinate / linked to the transcription tear?

Also, @rausch-supola has found 8 other files to have the same issue (I've updated the list in the issue description above).

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29, 34, 43, 44, 70, 72, 73, 74, 75, 112, 140, 150

@miriamaltawil
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Ok, I worked on those from 29 to 72. Can you give me a feedback before I finish with the last 6?
Is the translation tier now subordinated to the transcription one? From my side it seems to have worked

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dasch124 commented Jan 11, 2024

Dear @miriamaltawil looks good to me!
You can check yourself: When you open the generated TEI-version of the updated ELAN document, the translation should be placed into a <spanGrp> element (see e.g. line 243 in Urfa-029) (just make sure to wait a bit after pushing your changes so the transformation process can re-generate the new TEI document.)

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Thank you, @miriamaltawil ! Yes, looks good now!
You can check for yourself: It worked, when the translation is placed within a <spanGrp> element in the generated TEI document in 103_tei_w. E.g. here. You might need to wait for some seconds for the transformation process to run through and commit the TEI documents.

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That's good news! I will continue then; I will be done on Monday with this :)

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Ok, the issue tier-type is solved in all elan files mentioned above.

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Great, that was quick, @miriamaltawil ! I went over the changes really quickly, and this looks solved to me.

@rausch-supola Can you please double-check? Thank you!

The only remaining issue is that we seem to have inconsistent names for the tiers or tier type. Can you change them to "Translation" in the following files?

  • Urfa-011_Cemetry-Harran-2010.eaf
  • Urfa-012_Lentils-Harran-2010.eaf
  • Urfa-029_Smoking-Harran-2010.eaf
  • Urfa-042_Hospitality-Harran-2010.eaf
  • Urfa-077a_The_Jinn-Harran-2010.eaf
  • Urfa-077_Jinn-Harran-2010.pfsx
  • Urfa-092_Sultan_Murad-Harran-2010.eaf
  • Urfa-094_Three_Advices-Harran-2010.eaf

Thank you!

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sure! I will do it

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I have worked on the first 5 files. I am not sure it worked... (?)

@dasch124
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looks good!

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Unfortunately, there occured another file which differs from the others: 085. And there seems to be two of them: "Urfa-085_Snake_in_the_Cistern-Harran-2010.xml" and "Urfa-085_The_snake.xml". They both have who="#Transcription" without exception.

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I think I fixed the issue... Let me know if it worked.

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Thank you, everything seems to look fine with "Urfa-085_The_Snake_in_the_Cistern-Harran-2010". The problem is still there with "Urfa-085_Snake_in_the_Cistern-Harran-2010.xml" and "Urfa-085_The_snake.xml" - maybe these are no longer needed?

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Yes, exactly, they can be deleted.

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seems this is fixed @dasch124 ?

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