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CDK post-deployment experience #437
CDK post-deployment experience #437
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Yes! This would be fantastic. I have questions about the boundary between the DevOps and SysOps post-deployment experience.
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I have come across two personas of operators in this sense, one being the more "DevOps" aligned build and run team, the other being the traditional "ops" team with often little insight into the application. A frustration I've seen repeatedly with customer teams is the complexity involved in correlating logs (both "system logs" like CloudFormation deployments, custom resources, flow logs; and "application logs"). This issue does not stem from CDK itself, and can e.g. be addressed with appropriately crafted Insights queries. The CDK should be able to improve the user experience here. An intuitive "here are all the logs" view would benefit both build and run, as well as run-only teams. Personally I'd love to see an extensible |
@kadrach yeah, that's what I'm getting at with a SysOps workbench "single pane of Glass" post-deployment experience. |
I think by default it would be "whatever you say belongs together will go together"... if there are multiple levels of hierarchy would that be sufficient? What is the use case you are thinking of? At the very least we do want to support multiple accounts.
Interesting. I'm not sure what that would look like. The simplest to achieve would be to embed arbitrary pages, I suppose. But that may not be enough integration, to which the alternative would be having to write adapters that can query various metrics backends.
I agree that there are many logs that are widely spread out and they're not always easy to search. I definitely see the benefit here. (Honestly -- a unified logs viewer that pulls from a bunch of different log groups and other sources is totally something someone could build today) |
BAU SysOps for monitoring and alerting of all the things aiming at Site Reliability Eng metrics.
If SysOps are having to constantly log into different accounts (maybe 100) to gain any insight or monitoring then no, we don't want account-based hierarchy.
Surely AWS already have some of this implemented for SRE monitoring of the AWS Console suite?? We don't want to re-invent the wheel, but yes adapters would be fine.
Yes, a unified logs viewer and searcher += integrate with unified CMDB (what owner/costcode/system/service created the logs) |
Not having supported L2 constructs for AWS services. |
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We want to support operators of CDK applications during their common tasks. What are the biggest problems/frustrations you would like us to address?
Let us know in the discussion below.
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