Recommended xsession config blocks dbus

[samueltwallace]

Hi,

I bet this is more of an upstream issue, but is relevant to the .xinitrc in the wiki. Running dbus-launch --exit-with-session emacs will block emacs' dbus communication.

I ran into this issue trying to use tramp, which calls gvfs by dbus, and it failed to start gvfs. dbus-monitor also can't connect to running bus.

I fixed this by omitting the --exit-with-session option, and dbus communication work again.

Consider changing the .xinitrc so to not include the option? Unless there would be unwanted side effects. But a warning or workaround is a good idea.

[medranocalvo]

Thank you for reporting this issue.

I think this has changed over the years...

What distribution are you using?

I'd like input from other users as well:

• which distribution?
• how do you launch EXWM?

Before changing the default .xinitrc (which we can say worked in the past) I'd like to learn why is the change necessary.
A warning in the Wiki should do no harm, would you be willing to add it?

[samueltwallace]

I am using Arch Linux, and I can certainly add a warning (though do I need special permissions to do so? and where should it go, what section?)

[medranocalvo]

Please see #210 (comment). Summary: don’t use `dbus-launch` on Arch Linux. The Wiki can be improved by everyone, please add a note for Arch users. I assume you are a new user. If so, I’d like to ask you for an experience report: what helped, what’s confusing, anything really. (Also if you decide not using EXWM!) Other readers: is `dbus-launch` also detrimental in other distributions? This reminds me that `exwm-replace` doesn’t work anymore on Ubuntu 20 due to something related to the session bus. I wonder whether is might be related.

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Am 21.03.2022 um 04:01 schrieb Samuel T. Wallace ***@***.***>:  I am using Arch Linux, and I can certainly add a warning (though do I need special permissions to do so?) — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS or Android. You are receiving this because you commented.

[samueltwallace]

I added the wiki note (finally! thanks for the patience).

I really like EXWM! the one thing that I would wonder about is making X windows available in every workspace, rather than needing to use exwm-workspace-move-window. I would rather just be able to pop up my firefox windows in any workspace. But I wonder if technical reasons prevents this...?

[medranocalvo]

@samueltwallace, thank you.

With regards to your comment, have a look at https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm/wiki#x-window-handling-among-workspaces. I personally set both exwm-workspace-show-all-buffers and exwm-layout-show-all-buffers to t, and actually think they should default to that, and don't really understard the usefulness of any other value. I don't yet have the energy to make a proposal to change it, but will.

I'm leaving this ticket open, as I'd like to further review our instructions (e.g. https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm/wiki/Configuration-Example). When I do so, would you be able to make sure they work an Arch system?

[samueltwallace]

Absolutely, just let me know how I can help.