A story about my neighbors and some of my opinions.

[main76]

Firstly, my English is not that kind of good, hope you can understand what I am saying. I'll just express my opinions below, it is up to you to believe it or not.

首先，我的英语不是那么的好，希望你能看懂我再说什么。以下我进表达我的观点，相信与否都取决于你。

This is not from any news or other reports, which truly occurred. I'm also the one that does not trust media reports in some aspects (basically the political sensitive news).

首先这件事儿不是来自任何新闻或报道，是真实发生的。我可能和你差不多，都是在一定程度上是不相信媒体报道的（尤其是政治敏感的新闻）。

The victim was an old woman, whose son and her wife have the belief in FLG, her health was getting worse, other neighbors all told her son to send her to the hospital to get medical treatments, yet, he refused. He believed his mother was about to go to the paradise, so refused to send her to the hospital and preventing anyone from getting into his house to send his mom to the hospital. Finally, she died in despair and pain.

受害人是一个老年女性，她的儿子和其媳妇都练FLG，当时她的身体状况每况愈下，其他的邻居都让他的儿子送他去医院接受治疗。然而，他儿子拒绝了。他深信他妈妈马上就要去天堂了，所以他拒绝送她去医院，而且不让任何人接近他家以将他妈妈送到医院。最后老人家也就死在了绝望和痛苦之中。

In China, tons of people still do not receive enough education, they are very easy to be misled or lured by the others. Even if LHZ did want to go against the dictatorship, don't you think FLG is, of course, a wrong way which led to the death of lots of innocent people.

在中国，还有太多的人没有接受足够的教育，他们很容易被人误导被人利用。我们即使相信LHZ是确实想要反对独裁专政，那你难道不觉得FLG也不是一个正确的方式吗，毕竟他害得那么多无辜的人失去了生命。

I'm not a Communists and do not care politics that much. I agree with your opinion about the dictatorship. However, democratic will not truly exist even in the late 20 years. As I have said above, because of the people are lack of education, they are easy to be controlled by the other.

我不是一个共产党员也对政治其实不怎么在意，我同意你说的专政独裁。但是我觉得即使20年过去，民主都不可能真正在中国实现。正如我之前说的，人民素质低下，容易受人摆布，也就没有什么真正的民主可言。

You may saw lots of Chinese cursing you, but did you notice some details? Basically, they fully reject your opinion towards FLG, but not about Xi (Bao Zi) or 64, right? They may have said 'you know nothing about FLG' or so. I suggest you delete the content about FLG in your profiles and keep '64' or 'Xi' if you like.

你可能看到很多的中国人来咒骂你，但是你是否注意到这么个细节。他们大都是反对你对于FLG的观点，而不是Xi（包子）亦或是六四，对吧？他们可能说过，你根本一点都不懂FLG这件事，或者类似的话。我希望你能删除在你个人简介中关于FLG的相关内容，至于六四和Xi那就随你了。

But I have to say something for Xi. He is a man of ambition, he is deconstructing the remain parts that follow JZM(Ze Min Jiang). But, of course, we can't say he will not form his faction within the party. Without the things Xi has done, other presidents will just get controlled by Jiang and acted as a shadow president. I dislike Jiang much more than Xi, so maybe this part contains a little bit subjective color.

但我也想为Xi说两句。他是一个野心家，他正在摧毁Jiang留下的派系残余。但是我们也不能说他不会简历属于自己的党内派系。但如果他没有做这些，其他的国家领导人也就只能做被Jiang控制的提线木偶。最后，相比Xi我更讨厌Jiang，所以也许这段内容有一点的主观色彩。

Finally, I hope you can delete the content about FLG in your profiles. Thanks.

最后，我再次重申，希望你能删除你简介中关于FLG的内容，谢谢。

[main76]

In addition, what you know about FLG is, of course, over-reported by foreign media(may be driven by the government), in order to uglify Chinese government.

还有就是，你所了解到的FLG相关内容，明显是被媒体故意夸大（很可能是政府授意的），过分报道以丑化中国政府的。

[cirosantilli]

Hi master,

Thanks for the message.

I'll be honest, the one thing I hadn't heard before political thing about XJP taking down JZM's power, thanks very much for that insight.

All other points were addressed in the FAQ, but I'll point them down here because you are a cool person:

The victim was an old woman

You must provide personally identifiable information for the report to have any value: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/3e7201cfcf97dde275a10b092837911f000f1725/FAQ.adoc#i-have-personally-seen-people-do-bad-things-because-of-falun-gong

In China, tons of people still do not receive enough education, they are very easy to be misled or lured by the others

https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/3e7201cfcf97dde275a10b092837911f000f1725/FAQ.adoc#the-chinese-masses-are-still-uneducated-and-not-fit-for-free-speech-and-democracy

You may saw lots of Chinese cursing you, but did you notice some details? Basically, they fully reject your opinion towards FLG

https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/3e7201cfcf97dde275a10b092837911f000f1725/FAQ.adoc#1912-many-people-both-are-against-censorship-and-flg

Finally, I hope you can delete the content about FLG in your profiles. Thanks.

Main reasons why I won't:

• https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/3e7201cfcf97dde275a10b092837911f000f1725/FAQ.adoc#192-many-people-have-died-because-they-stopped-taking-medication-because-of-falun-gong-you-should-not-support-it
• https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/3e7201cfcf97dde275a10b092837911f000f1725/FAQ.adoc#flg-is-dangerous-because-lhz-has-too-much-power-over-followers
• https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/3e7201cfcf97dde275a10b092837911f000f1725/FAQ.adoc#someone-from-movement-x-did-something-bad-therefore-the-movement-should-be-banned

[cirosantilli]

In addition, what you know about FLG is, of course, over-reported by foreign media(may be driven by the government), in order to uglify Chinese government.

Which facts in particular are you referring to? To me what matters is that:

• it is censored
• if you do it in China you go to jail
• I don't think you should go to jail for it (as explained on previous discussion)

[main76]

IMO, we all cannot get to know what the thing that it essentially is. For example, in China, a media just reports, say, Part A&B, while in the U.S., a media reports Part B&C, so all of us cannot get the full view on that. It is a bit like the Simpson's paradox, because of this, we get different understanding towards it. So there is no problem with thinking critically about things like FLG. By the way, are you a religious person?

In China, what you say is not censored, but if you spread the rumor, and that does influence a lot of people(an article forwarded over 500 times), you may get arrested and spend 15 days in the police station(not jail), but that is enough for you to lose your job.

The story took place in An Hua Nan Li, Chong Wen District, Beijing, where I still live in, about 20 years before. Honestly, I don't remember the old woman's name.