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Skip silence #921

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chirag127 opened this issue Jun 7, 2021 · 7 comments
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Skip silence #921

chirag127 opened this issue Jun 7, 2021 · 7 comments
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chirag127 commented Jun 7, 2021

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@chirag127 chirag127 added the help wanted Just an old github standard we add automatically. (The team can remove it when working on it.) label Jun 7, 2021
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ImprovedTube commented Jun 7, 2021

yay! + another conditional speed/skip based on content? (#899 (comment) )

What kinds of silences are typical?

  1. phonetics ~<0.7 seconds each. Some of these pauses make words(/phrases) more recognizable or just familiar (even if their origin would be physiology/hard to avoid physically. Some phonetics might be side effect of vocal physiology, rather than useful?).
  • So if some of these could be skipped to save time efficiently, removing others might increase listening-difficulty/listening-errors.
  1. category dependend error. I.e. in Live stream & recordings of lectures.
    The less scripted the sound / talk was, the more likely there are pauses due to human error, lack of performance/exhaustion of the speaker, combined with 'um'- & 'hm'-sounds (or other errors, like mono Mono audio(IDEA) #552).
  • if such category is detected, then the remedy can be much more specific/confident.
  1. 0.5s-10s rethorics (like minute/s of silence, to express relevance solemnly/diginity/equanimity)
  • hard to decide. maybe easier by category or by channel
  1. several seconds or minutes: broken sound/error, silent scenes/videos(no sound existing), art
  • these can be skipped in inactive tabs more likely meaningfully than in active ones.

  • in active, visible tabs, all silence-skipping could(?) analyze video too. ( - Video frames should not change much noticably during the whole skipped period)

  • 6. Exclusion/s: Music, .., ... ?

On 1. : Is all existing (proportional) digital speed-up only skipping random parts?
"Micro silences" appearing everywhere, could be removed from every syllable or word in a speech, without changing their proportional tempo. Thus changing how the speaker's energy is perceived, but no changing the clarity of words as much - nor the relational speed (pauses might be semantically relevant. )

  • I.e. maybe cutting 10% of the duration of each unit of speech (1x syllable/word+ 1x pause)
    • This might, range from 0.2s to 0.6s usually for one speaker/video (up to 10 seconds rethorically, rarely)
      In this case maybe each could be shortned by 10%. i.e. 0.09s to 0.54s (up to 4.5s).
      • Could be applied to music more obviously, if every beat can be 0.5seconds duration, and might include at least 0.05s in silence/s between the notes played or syllables sung during that beat. ( - Yet the single beat or word might change the rythm wihin)

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phonetics (& necessary physiology). ~<0.7 seconds each. Some of these pauses make words(/phrases) more recognizable or just familiar (even if their origin would be physiology/hard to avoid physically).

We should skip it .

2. category dependent error. I.e. in Live stream & recordings of lectures.

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5. Exclusion/s: Music, .., ... ?

  • 0.5s-10s rethorics (or minutes of silence, to express relevance solemnly/diginity/equanimity)

We should skip it .

  • All silence-skipping could analyze video too

I don't think it is needed. Frame may change a lot during a segment which is intended to be skipped and hence create too many false positive.

  • these can be skipped in inactive tabs more likely meaningfully than in active ones.

we should skip it in both active and inactive ones .

5. Exclusion/s: Music, .., ... ?

Of course, if easily possible. May provide opt-out option for disabling skip silence in music .

Micro silences" appearing everywhere,

May provide opt-in option for enabling micro silence skipping or just do it by default and not provide option to opt-out of it .
as I think skip silence is absolute skip silence to save time .

  • less complicated feature idea: dynamic speed based on speed of speech (syllables per minute or wpm)

Yeah, it is very easy if there are captions in the video .

  • dynamic speed based on speed of speech (syllables per minute or wpm

How will we calculate the WPM in the video that don't have captions ?

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*why would you want to skip when a lot is happening in the video and the tab is active too? (i.e. new scene, completely different backgrounds)

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*why would you want to skip when a lot is happening in the video and the tab is active too? (i.e. new scene, completely different backgrounds)

I just thought it will quite complicated and performance inefficient, So, I had said that.

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in my experience with listening to 2000h+ of podcasts per year: skipping silence becomes a non-issue and even annoying when you have the proper playback speed set (for me 2.3..3.0x, but there's a legend of a 8.0x user )

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in my experience with listening to 2000h+ of podcasts per year: skipping silence becomes a non-issue and even annoying when you have the proper playback speed set (for me 2.3..3.0x, but there's a legend of a 8.0x user )

By the way, Google podcast also have a option to skip silence but YouTube does not.

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ImprovedTube commented Feb 7, 2022

Added skipping silence to the list of player buttons we should add, so that it can just be activated per video or mood. #1445
(While each button on right-click could allow to build specific sticky rules 'always for this channel' / category / ..


Hi guys! @allanlaal what about 0.8x while working?
@chirag127 ...performance, yes. Just tried to be complete ☺

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