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Optimize and extend the Corona infection calculation algorithm #403
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Hi @MikeMcC399 thank you for your answer. Sorry, but when searching the list of issues I didn't find these both topics. Anyway I would like to keep this issue because it puts another light on this topic. The CWA is a great tool and the developers did a fantastic job to create this application but the feeling of the people (and also the politicians) is the CWA does not help to get rid of the pandemic. It helps to inform people about contacts that have been infected as the Gesundheitsamt does but not more. I read #24 but did not understand everything but I agree with @cfritzsche that it should not be too complex to implement this feature. You can use the same mechanism for it as you do for normal positive test notifications. If currently only Ids of infected persons are stored on the server the server DB has to be extended to store also the IDs (and their probabilty) of contact persons of infected persons and contact persons of contact persons of infected persons, etc. . These other persons can be notified in the same way and should make a Corona Test. |
In this context, I would like to refer to a study that underlines the need for quick information about potentially infected people and the health system. Joachim. |
I am new to this repository, so I don't know what the best place is to put this issue to. If it helps that this issue will be realized then it's okay to merge it to #24 but the last entry of #24 is from October 2020. That is before the second Corona wave in Germany! I have doubts that this item got and will get the attention that it deserves. |
No problem, we normally try to not get issues about the same topic multithreaded, since it's harder to keep track what has already been said and what not, etc. But we have multiple issues which request the same (see for example #288, #206, #266). Reg. the attention part, I agree that there is no visible development reg. this, but I don't think that the problem is that there's no attention, but that this seems to be technically not feasible (correct me if I get something wrong here) with the currently used Exposure Notification Framework, provided by Google/Apple. To implement this, contacts from infected people would also have to upload their keys (=marked as infected). Some sources:
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@Ein-Tim (But is it really still needed to distinguish the "truly positive keys" from "seconday keys"? In the end all people notified will be sent to the test center to make a test. Only thinking.) Beside that, I saw that there exists a fork of the CWA on f-droid that doesn't depend on the Google/Apple library. May be joining both projects would be a solution. That's very disappointing. I will then close this issue during the next days. |
No, you don't have to close this issue, I think it's a really great proposal! Also, after having a second thought, it will somehow be possible to distinguish between people you met and places you visited (I'm talking about the event registration feature, which is planned for version 2.0). So besides that this is closely related to #24, I would leave it open. Have a nice Friday everyone! |
@Ein-Tim |
... or feasible under the current limitations. |
#24 does not require a central database. It just involves a second kind of risk calculation, based on uploaded keys with a different marking, e.g. UNTESTED_CONTACT, and a way to upload them. The rest of the framework could work as before, apps of warned users would tell them the contact was not tested yet but his contact was. See more details here: #24 (comment) |
Hey @di-sc, Thank you for your submission However, as others pointed out, this request is already discussed in #24. We will therefore close your issue as a duplicate (for reasons see the section below). Also as a general reminder (for everyone) regarding this statement:
Please keep in mind that we use Github mainly as a bug/issue tracker, not as a newsfeed. Spreading a discussion out over multiple threads makes it much harder for us (i.e. the community team and the devs) to follow, figure out what the users want or see how popular a request really is. If the discussions are very similar, arguments/questions also tend to get repeated a lot which leads to some discussions going in circles. Overall, this might result in the core ideas in some wishlist items getting less attention because the discussion is hard to follow. So even though the issue thread in here already has a lot of comments, we will close it in favour of #24 because this thread does not add new arguments and #24 already has links to scientific papers which explore implementation ideas. Of course, everyone should be still encouraged to voice their support for the feature request in #24 by writing a comment or giving it a thumbs up/heart emoji. Corona-Warn-App Open Source Team |
Duplicate of #24 |
Exposure keys can be extracted regardless of risk status (with consent of the user). The ENF does not even know about the risk status, only the app does. |
Yes, sure. But would it be possible for the app/ENF to distinguish between direct contacts and secondary contacts in any form?
so that the app which downloads the keys knows wether this is a key from a confirmed positive tested person or only from a secondary contact? I hope you know what I mean. |
@Ein-Tim The app could attach any additional metadata to the uploaded keys which could be stored by the server. So in general: Yes, something like this is technically possible. Corona-Warn-App Open Source Team |
Thanks @heinezen 👍 |
Current Implementation
The current implementation is based on https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-documentation/blob/master/cwa-risk-assessment.md and from my understanding if there is a contact of A - B and A is infected, makes a test and puts the result into the CWA, than B is notified about this infection the next time he/she requests the infection data from the server.
Suggested Enhancement
The problem with the implemenation above is that in most cases the notification of B would be too late to stop the virus from spreading. With an infection time of 5-6 days B may have more contacts to C, C', C'', ... and also C may have contacts to D, D', D'', ... before A detects that he/shie is infected, makes a test, and puts the data into the CWA. The CWA is always running behind the virus. To have an advantage above the virus the CWA should be changed in a way that it also informs C and may be D (both with lower probability) about the infection of A (and perhaps B). The CWA could suggest C and D to make a test, which is of little effort because test centers are now everywhere available.
Implementation details
Only what I was thinking about was that this enhancement could be implemented by calculating a probaility value for every contact in the case one of the parties gets infected. Having this probability and while initiating a server request these probabilities could be used to calculate the own probability and if it is above a specified level make a suggestion to the user to make a test. Simple ;-)
Expected Benefits
If it works as expected it should be possible to get control over the virus completly, because we are always near by the virus infections and not running days behind. There is one drawback that the installed base of the CWA is not high enough to follow all path of the virus but anyway I would take that risk.
Prospect
For later optimization I suggest to add also other calculations of the user into the CWA, e.g. having many contacts increases the risk also without infections, living in areas with high rates of infections, etc.
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