No rendering for aerialway=*

[pgavrilov]

No rendering for aerialway=cable_car and aerialway=chair_lift

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/47.7054/12.8747
https://www.cyclosm.org/#map=15/47.7052/12.8744/cyclosm

[Phyks]

aerialway are usually not bike-friendly (chair lift at least). Should we render all of them (considering they are easy to spot in the landscape and to orient with) or only the bike-friendly ones (probably just cable_car and with bicycle hint)?

[Florimondable]

Render all of them, use aerialway:bicycle | yes/summer/no to render in blue or not, I’d say.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:aerialway

[quasart]

Just in case you didn't notice, wiki says about aerialway:bicycle :

By default, cablecar, gondola, and mixed_lift imply yes, and chairlifts, t-bars imply no

[pgavrilov]

These objects provide good guidance, and they can help to understand map. So, you render river even if it is not bike-friendly.

[Phyks]

Done. I did not consider the aerialway:bicycle=summer edge case so far (it is a synonym for yes currently). Rendering it better falls within the scope of #65.

https://www.cyclosm.org/#16/45.5133/2.8442

[Florimondable]

Not link to #65, aerialway:bicycle is just an access restriction tag.
I would not render cable_car in blue if access to bicycle is not set.

[Phyks]

aerialway:bicycle=summer is a temporal restriction, no? So I somehow link it to the question of how to render temporal restriction / intermittent features.

[pgavrilov]

Done. I did not consider the aerialway:bicycle=summer edge case so far (it is a synonym for yes currently). Rendering it better falls within the scope of #65.

I think, aerialways must be shown at least at zoom 14, may be 13.
Note: usually it is some kilometers long object.

[Florimondable]

aerialway:bicycle=summer is a temporal restriction, no? So I somehow link it to the question of how to render temporal restriction / intermittent features.

Yes, you're right

I think, aerialways must be shown at least at zoom 14, may be 13.
Note: usually it is some kilometers long object.

They are now available from z14, but I think we should render from 13 at least
https://www.cyclosm.org/#map=14/-16.5121/-68.1306/cyclosm

[Phyks]

They are now available from z14, but I think we should render from 13 at least

It is already the case, it should be rendered from Z12, just as on osm.org. See https://github.com/cyclosm/cyclosm-cartocss-style/blob/master/project.mml#L766-L786 and https://github.com/cyclosm/cyclosm-cartocss-style/blob/master/aerialways.mss#L5.

[Florimondable]

There is misspell here

cyclosm-cartocss-style/project.mml

Line 779 in 2152996

WHEN aerialway IN ('cablecar', 'gondola', 'mixed_lift') AND (tags->'aeriwaly:bicycle' IS NULL OR tags->'aerialway:bicycle' != 'no') THEN 'yes'

-> aeriwaly

[Florimondable]

And bicycle=yes is missing for chair_lift and others

[Phyks]

There is misspell here

Indeed, fixed.

And bicycle=yes is missing for chair_lift and others

bicycle tag seems ultra minoritary from taginfo. I think correct tagging is using aerialway:bicycle, isn't it?

[Florimondable]

And bicycle=yes is missing for chair_lift and others

bicycle tag seems ultra minoritary from taginfo. I think correct tagging is using aerialway:bicycle, isn't it?

It's what I meant of course.
(weird tagging scheme btw)