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[Help] Question on different quality settings and different quality versions of albums listed in Tidal #260

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r4nd0m-dud3 opened this issue Nov 30, 2024 · 3 comments
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@r4nd0m-dud3
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I need Help.

Hello there!

I'm sorry if I'm being stupid, but I've searched back and forth and couldn't get info I'm very curious about. What exactly happens if I set download quality, let's say, high_lossless (standard flac quality) and try to download hi-res album? I have default Tidal plan.

Should I synchronize set download quality and album quality? Tidal is kinda confusing with so many different versions of the same album. I even tried to download "low" quality album and I still got the lossless quality (checked the spectrum graph), but it seems like the file itself is different from "lossless" quality version of the same album.

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I'm not the developer, but you'll get the different files from TIDAL's servers. If you play a song on the desktop or on the app, you'll find a badge that says "High" or "MAX" depending on the song quality, but pressing on it gives you further quality options, such as the option to drop down from Hi-res audio (MAX) to CD Quality (High), or alternatively, Low, which gives you lossy AAC if you're on a metered connection, for example. tidal-dl-ng just gives you the choice to select the quality you want from what TIDAL natively offers.

The "Low" file you downloaded shouldn't be lossless, and for further reading on how to determine if something is truly lossless, you can check out this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/skrillex/comments/3l0yxp/how_to_determine_the_true_quality_of_an_audio_file/

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r4nd0m-dud3 commented Dec 1, 2024

The "Low" file you downloaded shouldn't be lossless, and for further reading on how to determine if something is truly lossless, you can check out this guide

As I've already said, I've checked the spectrum and it's definitely lossless. (edit: for some reason I assumed I could see this on the spectral analysis, but forgot that "low" is a vague term and apparently it can be mp3 320, which in turn can be identical to flac on the spectrum. so here comes the second argument that the developer stated that tidal-dl-ng simply grabs the stream as is with no re-encoding - then why is the "low" file's size so big (34 mb) and bitrate shown as 1003 kbps?)

For example, I search for "skinny ape" (a Gorillaz song), select the "low" version of it in the list while having "high_lossless" set as download quality, hit "download" and it simply downloads a lossless version. That's counter-intuitive behaviour I can't understand on my own, so I'm curious and that's why I opened this issue.

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yerbas07 commented Dec 2, 2024

In this program, when I search for an album, I get different results for the same one, one of them may be LOW. Well, that LOW corresponds to the ATMOS version, however, when I proceed to download it, I don't get an ATMOS file, why?

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