Reasons and Suggestions for Increasing the Quality Multiplier of Filecoin Networks #833
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Has no any reference to the most import issue -- corruption |
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Let the free market decide the most efficient way to decide the money. Let's see how many SPs would like to do it. Do you guys plan to vote on it? |
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those proposal just make the cost to product 1 Fil even cheap. anyone who buy filecoin for collateral will get 10% ~20% value in USD after the sectors expired. It is seems help to do the TVL, but actually make Filecoin less value. Cannot Support. |
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和去年的提案很相似,大家都质押锁仓嘛没有新意! |
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The reward source for (verified or unvierified)deal should be from the 15% retrieval reward allocation, not the CC miner reward pool. All sectors should be same power rate and there should be no multipliers. |
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As a community member what I suggest is that SP should approach the engagement in 3 layers:
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Guys, you are also welcome to join the discussion on Slack, fil-plus |
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From the perspective of network growth, I support this proposal; |
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After reading through the proposal, I do agree with @1475Notary proposal. The point you wrote locking or reducing the circulating supply because it can directly affect the value of the FIL, this is the most important point why we need this proposal to go forward, if there are changes and improvement required, we can take this opportunity to address it now, thus we can see the network growth in FVM. |
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Analyze this proposal from a SP perspective and support it @1475Notary . More urgent and important than DC abuse is that SP lives first. |
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We need to pull the network out of the vortex quickly. This proposal may be the only valid option at this time. Willing to support the three multiplier changes. |
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I do agree with this proposal. Any FIL lending project you would like to recommend? @1475Notary Both Anchorage and Coinlist can not support us. |
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100% support, no pain no gain! But I suggest @1475Notary you ask Juan's team to join SPs for the deflation. Otherwise we make the price nice but PL gets the most out of it. |
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Hi all, |
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Thanks for opening this discussion.
I think this point is well made, and seems to be becoming increasingly widely accepted among network participants today. While leasing or locking pledge collateral for new onboarding represents an immediate cost, resulting in a first desire to wish it were lower, one should also think about pledge requirements as a requirement on all the other SPs who might compete with you. Requiring future SPs to lock collateral protects an SP's investment, both in terms of maintaining a hurdle to competition, and stabilising the value of the future tokens to be earned as reward. So let's say we can get some broad agreement on the desirability of increasing locking across the network. There are many different ways that this might be achieved, and I think it's well worth our time to consider multiple of them, rather than just the easy knobs to tweak. Some knob-tweaking ends up fairly ineffective because balancing mechanism come into play to push the aggregate result back to where it was. I think adjusting multipliers suffers from some of this, because the 30%-of-supply lock target reacts to reduce initial pledge requirements if the rate of pledging goes up. Some directions that are worth consideration:
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1、我认为CC扇区的算力应该是1倍质押5倍算力。DC扇区20倍质押20算例。或许我给的数值不是很准确,应该取到一个平衡值。理由:因为CC矿工的成本在硬件、托管等方面。其次CC扇区里面没有高价值的数据,所以不需要高倍抵押。然后DC扇区存储的是有价值的数据,从而需要高倍质押。 |
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Why not raise CC to 2.5x and leave DC unchanged? |
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Under your proposal, can existing sectors upgrade to 5x / 20x? |
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I think the proposal that can retain CC's power is reasonable, and it can balance the interests of some participants. As for the computing power coefficient, we need to discuss it. |
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Author: 1475 Notary
Type: Technical
Category: Core
2023-09-15
Foreword
This FIP focuses on explaining why we need to increase the quality multiplier. We will discuss the pros and cons of raising the quality multiplier and the proposal to increase the quality multiplier.
Background
Using the Filecoin network's huge storage capacity to store data is one of the key visions of the project. The Fil+ program adjusts the Raw Byte Power (RBP) to 10x the Quality Adjusted Power (QAP) through the quality multiplier, which means a 9x increase in the chances of obtaining block rewards as compared to a sector without data from a data cap allocation. The quality multiplier is used to subsidize storage providers participating in the Fil+ program, SPs receive and store data verified by a notary (human) can gain 10x QAP, in return for which the storage providers will provide data owners with stable, long-term, competitively priced storage services.
There are two types of ways to implement data storage.
Problem Statement
Since the mainnet launch, the Filecoin global SPs who are the builders of the network and the beneficiaries of the block rewards have had a number of grievances with the Filecoin project itself, including but not limited to the listed below:
Proposal Design and Principles
Objectives
One of Filecoin's missions is to provide useful storage capacity, and the SPs that support this capacity are unable to profit from block rewards and the secondary market (selling of FIL) to maintain the network. The continuous reduction of the RBP and the constant release of tokens from sector expiration will affect the security of the network and disrupt supply and demand in the secondary FIL market. Therefore, the objectives of this FIP are as below:
Principles
Proposal
Advantages
The DC SPs will benefit from the block rewards, while the high block rewards will also subsidize the data providers, giving them more opportunities to bring in more valuable data onboarding. Moreover, Fil+ abusers can now go for the 5x option, alleviating the pressure to abuse and allowing actual clients to enjoy the subsidy provided by Filecoin.
As an SP and FIL holder, everyone should care about locking or reducing the circulating supply because it can directly affect the value of the FIL. Here are some reasons:
A slow increase in supply: When a token's supply increases slowly, its value can be more stable and less volatile, like BTC or ETH. This can provide FIL holders with a better sense of confidence and predictability.
Incentivizing mechanisms: Locking or reducing circulating supply can create additional demand for FIL. For example, if FIL are locked in a smart contract/network for a certain period of time, this can reduce velocity and drive up the value of the remaining tokens.
Stability: This can provide FIL holders with more confidence regarding the predictability and stability of their purchasing power.
Long-term value: Locking or reducing circulating supply can signal long-term confidence in the project and ecosystem. This can create a sense of trust among network participants and help to establish a more sustainable token economy over the long term.
Kick-start a new phase: QAP growth has been sluggish and RBP declining. This proposal can kick-start growth, setting up the network to take advantage of the next phase of the macro supercycle.
Therefore, as an SP and FIL holder, I am very concerned about it. I believe that locking or reducing the circulating supply is an important factor in boosting the strength of the economy.
Disadvantages
Open Questions
If the proposal passes,
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Filecoin 提案讨论:提高Filecoin网络算力乘数的原因和建议
作者:1475Notary
类型:技术
类别:核心
2023-09-15
前言
本次FIP主要解释我们为什么要提高网络算力乘数。我们将讨论现有算力乘数的增加后的利弊及提高全网算力乘数的建议。
背景
使用Filecoin网络巨大存储空间(Proof of Space)来存储数据是项目的重要愿景之一。通过Fil+项目为Filecoin网络引入了一个许可层,通过算力乘数将原值算力(RBP)调整为原值算力的10倍(QAP),这意味着增加了9倍获得区块奖励的机会。算力乘数用于补贴参与Fil+计划的存储提供商,他们接收并存储经公证人(人类)验证过的数据从而获得10倍的挖矿算力, 作为回报存储提供商将为数据所有者提供稳定,长期,具有竞争力价格的存储服务。
实现数据存储的方式有两种类,
问题陈述
从主网上线至今,全球存储提供商作为网络的构建者和区块奖励获得者对于Filecoin项目本身存在一些不满,包括但不限于以下几点:
提案设计目标及原则
目标
Filecoin的使命之一是提供有用的存储能力,而支撑这一能力的存储提供商无法从区块奖励和二级市场(售卖FIL)中获利来维持网络,持续减少的原值算力和来自扇区到期释放的代币将极大的影响网络安全和破坏二级市场的供求关系,基于此,本FIP的目标如下:
原则
提案
优点
存储验证订单数据的SP将从区块奖励中受益,而高额的区块奖励也将补贴数据提供者,给他们带来更多机会使得更有价值的数据加入。此外,Fil+滥用者现在可以选择 5x 的选项,减轻滥用的压力,并让实际客户享受 Filecoin 提供的补贴。
作为存储供应商和 FIL 持有者,每个人都应该关注锁仓或减少循环供应,因为它可以直接影响 FIL 的价值。以下是其中的一些原因:
因此,作为一名存储提供者和 FIL 持有者,我非常关注它。我认为锁定或减少循环供应是促进经济增长的重要因素。
缺点
开放式问题
如果方案得以推行,
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