FDC3 Identity & Threat Modelling - 9 Nov 2023

[Yannick-Malins]

Group overview

FDC3 revolves around several types of independent entities:

• Applications
• Desktop Agents
• App Directories
• Users

Each of these has an identity, and needs to know and trust the identities of several of the others in order to work seamlessly.However, at present there are few or no methods for them to validate those identities within the FDC3 Standard, meaning trust must be assumed. This comes with problems and risks : data loss, identity theft, oauth hell, or an inability to adopt interop via FDC3 - all of which are a threat to the FDC3 ecosystem’s continued growth. This complexity is multiplied by the different types of FDC3 setups now possible - desktop app interop, in-container interop, web interop, and interop between Desktop Agents (Bridging).

Over the past few years, various discussions, demos and roundtables have addressed this topic, but the outcome each time has been “what do our users need?”.

Therefore our first objective in this stream is to dig into what these risks and problems are, before we discuss and work on potential solutions

Relevant issue tags

identity-security

Meeting Date

Thursday 9 Nov 2023 - 11am (US eastern timezone EDT/EST) / 4pm (London, GMT/BST)

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Agenda

• Convene & roll call, review meeting notices (5mins)
• Recap of the previous session (5mins)
• Discussion of requirements around user identity (15mins)
• AOB & Adjourn (5mins)

Minutes

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Action Items

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Untracked attendees

Full name	Affiliation	GitHub username

[Yannick-Malins]

After a first session focused mainly on application and agent identity, this second session will focus on user identity

[bingenito]

Brian Ingenito / Morgan Stanley

[mattjamieson]

Matt Jamieson / WhiteDog

[kriswest]

Kris West / Interop.io 🚀

[robmoffat]

Rob / FINOS 🐟

[hughtroeger]

Hugh Troeger / FactSet

[paulgoldsmith]

Paul Goldsmith / Morgan Stanley

[kriswest]

Need minutes before closing - perhaps worth trying an AI summarize on recording/transcript?

[bingenito]

@kriswest This might have to be an update to agreements and reviewed by participants Legal teams. There is currently an assumption that the recordings are private and only for internal use, sending that to a service for summary might require notification and sign-off from all participants.