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Context Data & Intents Discussion group - 4 May 2023 #977

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mistryvinay opened this issue May 3, 2023 · 4 comments
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Context Data & Intents Discussion group - 4 May 2023 #977

mistryvinay opened this issue May 3, 2023 · 4 comments
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mistryvinay commented May 3, 2023

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At the FDC3 Use Cases Roundtable London, October 5th 2021 participants agreed that the FDC3 lexicon needs to be expanded, both with additional intents and context types to support Use Cases, but also to include more primitive data types in order to construct complex types. A number of participants also agreed that now is an appropriate time to expand the Lexicon.

See #455 for full details of the meeting outcomes.

This group is being convened to discuss and arrange work to contribute further Context types and Intents to support Use Cases being implemented by participants.

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Thursday 4 May 2023 - 9am EST / 2pm GMT

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  • Should we split context & intent out of the main FDC3 standard? #940
    • General consensus for need to release Context objects and Intents more frequently
      • Current process is holding back new additions, some of which have been waiting almost 10 months
      • Vendor feedback from the field if a capability is not within the standard, therefore I cant use FDC3
        • This is not true. You can create you own Intents and Context types whenever you like and start using them
        • But you don't fully achieve the goal of being able to Interop without prior bilateral agreements
        • If somebody has to define and a counter party in another firm have to agree, make a bilateral agreement on that type
      • Goal is put the types in a standard such that all parties use the standard and whats available
      • By changing the process and how we do governance on Context and Intents standards we can aim to release more frequently.
    • But how can we achieve this?
      • @robmoffat put forward a proposal #904 to use a repository style approach, where you create proposals and push them to a repository after they are agreed upon.
        • When a PR is approved a new NPM module would be created and made available immediately, its also visible on the FDC3 website
        • New additions could exist under a companies own namespacing, allowing for company specific types as well.
        • Unlike our current process, whereby if a PR is approved and even merged. It's still not available via an NPM module or visible on the FDC3 website
        • The SWG have asked us to bring batches of additions to adopt, because of how those meetings work essentially
          • It's considered inefficient for the standards working group, which is the only governance body at the moment to be doing this all the time.
        • @novavi also mentioned that splitting Context and Intents into a separate package makes complete sense.
        • Being able to iterate on additions faster is good.
        • Need to provide clear guidance on best practices for developing, describing and packaging new Contexts.
        • @kriswest next steps would be to come up with a plan and governance process, what would it be, what does it look like
          • Different governance processes for standard type and proprietary types submissions
          • Will this be governed by the SWG or is it practical to do it through the community at large to vote-in new additions
            • Alternatively appointed maintainers could help provide governance
          • Have a separate section on the website or a separate website altogether that embodies types like a repository
            • Each of these types has a version and change log
            • We can also open this up for private type submissions

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@mistryvinay mistryvinay added help wanted Extra attention is needed meeting Context Data & Intents Contexts & Intents Discussion Group labels May 3, 2023
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Milind Chidrawar / Singletrack

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novavi commented May 4, 2023

Derek Novavi / S&P Global

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Vinay Mistry / Symphony 🎵

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kriswest commented May 4, 2023

Kris West / Finsemble 🚀

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