Navajo lowercase a-ogonek and u-ogonek needs connection, acute accents appear to be misplaced #249
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/cc @TrueTyper It looks like P3 Noto Sans works as expected when language=NAV is selected. The text I used is The first line : base + two combining marks (U+0328, U+0301)
With lang=NAV, softdotted 'i' is not handled properly. This should be addressed, I think. |
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With lang=NAV, softdotted 'i' is not handled properly. This should be addressed, I think. #184 took care of it for non-NAV cases, but with lang=NAV, this is not handled properly. @TrueTyper |
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all appears to be resolved. nav testcase for fontdiff Sample output for NotoSans Black Outputs for all fonts |
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I am curious if any native Navajo speakers have options on the shape of Aogonek, aogonek, uogonek? Perhaps the problem cannot be properly addressed in Aogonek, but from a design perspective, I think the gap between the bowl and accent should be fixed in the lowercase letters. Side note for @marekjez86 – it seems your acute accents have shifted to the left. |
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What @frankrolf said. The acute accents are misplaced, and the lowercase a-ogonek and u-ogonek appear problematic at the connection. |
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@roozbehp , @frankrolf : there's an inherent conflict between what you suggest and what was attributed to @roozbehp in the beginning of this issue: "We need centered ogonek forms for Navajo text. [...] Navajo forms require the ogonek to be centered below the letter, as opposed to attached to the bottom right." It's either where it is (at the center; and looks the way it is right now) or looks "more connected" but NOT at the center. Was the initial requirement stated incorrectly? |
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@marekjez86: centered doesn't mean complete centering. It means around the center. In the case of lowercase a-ogonek and u-ogonek, the ogonek should actually move a little more to the left and attach under the belly of the letter, so it doesn't appear disconnected. Compare with Roboto, for example. The only case where it actually should actually be disconnected is uppercase A-ogonek (which looks correct now). |
I don’t agree with this assessment. You are working on a visual product, so in the end your result needs to look good, not just fulfill a technical requirement. |
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testing with <html lang="nav">
<p><span style="font-weight:700">Ą́Ę́Į́Ǫ́Ų́ą́ę́į́ǫ́ų́</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:700">ĄĘĮǪŲąęįǫų</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:700">Ą́Ę́Į́Ǫ́Ų́ą́ę́į́ǫ́ų́</span></p>
</html>results:
nav-428-Roboto-Italic.pdf |
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You can close this. Looks awesome, exactly as it should. Thank you. (There is no "u" in Navajo. ) |
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@nv-wiki : thank you for the comment. closing the issue. |
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that change is nice and appreciated but not really important. as long as it's in the middle it's ok. It would be a lot more important to have this available as a web font so people won't have to download it. I'm not sure how to request this, maybe someone could see to it, if possible. ahéheeʼ/thanks |
Reported by @roozbehp
Moved from googlei18n/noto-alpha#196
We need centered ogonek forms for Navajo text. The Unicode characters are shared between Polish, Lithuanian, Navajo, and a few other languages, but the Navajo forms require the ogonek to be centered below the letter, as opposed to attached to the bottom right.
Please add GSUB and GPOS features for Navajo, to center the combining ogonek (U+0328) and have alternates for precomposed letters used in Navajo with ogonek, with the language tag "NAV ". We need this is both Sans and Serif LGC fonts.
Navajo uses the ogonek in combination with lowercase and uppercase A, E, I, and O, which may also carry the acute accent at the same time.
Some links for existing Navajo fonts: http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2013-m06/0065.html
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