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interferences between ublock Origine and Privacy Badger ? #642

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walker17x opened this issue Aug 26, 2015 · 6 comments
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interferences between ublock Origine and Privacy Badger ? #642

walker17x opened this issue Aug 26, 2015 · 6 comments

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@walker17x
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When i use ublocko with privacy badger ( the new privacy plugin from eff ) the web pages loading speed is significantly slowing down.

so if we can not use these two plugins together is it possible to add the privacy badger features in ublocko ?

@gorhill
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gorhill commented Aug 26, 2015

You are not providing any details, and not providing any hard data (+ methodology) in support of your statement that "page loading speed is significantly slowing down". Also, you refer to "Privacy Badger's features" in vague way... what features exactly?

@harshanvn
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add the privacy badger features

I really did not see any benefits of having PB installed on top of uBO (configured in Medium Blocking mode), in my couple of days browsing with it.

And did not either see any slowdown using it...

This is all being reported for FF v40.0.2

@luxoflux
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Just for reference, Peter Eckersley who works on Privacy Badger had this to say about uBlock and PB:

ublock is great software (it didn't exist when we started work on PB!) and so there are only a few things PB will catch that it doesn't. But there are some. For instance, PB will replace widgets such as Tweet and Facebook like buttons with locally hosted, non-tracking variants. And PB may catch new trackers faster than ublock because it uses algorithmic detection rather than requiring a blocklist.

@harshanvn
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For instance, PB will replace widgets such as Tweet and Facebook like buttons with locally hosted, non-tracking variants.

I think i agree. if there is no filter in this case. it will not be blocked.

And PB may catch new trackers faster than ublock because it uses algorithmic detection rather than requiring a blocklist.

It depends on how you configure to use uBo. In case if its configured > Medium Blocking. I think it will mostly catch the new variants, unless they are locally hosted..

@gorhill
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gorhill commented Aug 26, 2015

I did benchmark blocking efficiency of Privacy Badger a long while ago -- and it was not doing so well back then. I stopped benchmarking PB because I feared I would not be fair to it, as it needs to be "trained" before it blocks something (I did trained it in the benchmark as per PB dev comments somewhere), and was still in early development. If I could find a methodology to benchmark properly, I would create new benchmarks for blocking efficiency, but I don't have any such methodology so far.

Personally, the problem I have as user with PB is the "may catch" (emphasis: personally, as a user). uBlock uses well maintained block lists (including HOSTS files), there is no whitelist, and the overall approach in uBlock is that everything out there is a tracker -- a mere IP is what one need for tracking purpose and not connecting to 3rd-party servers by default is a best first-step protection against tracking (present or future), no heuristic or filter lists needed.

@LimboSlam
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It will give you problems if you subscribe to "Privacy" and "Social" in Ublock Origin or any adblocker/scriptblocker. This is because they detect those certain ads (third-party trackers).

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