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Add rendering for amenity=community_centre #506

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nhsavage opened this issue Apr 26, 2014 · 27 comments
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Add rendering for amenity=community_centre #506

nhsavage opened this issue Apr 26, 2014 · 27 comments
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@nhsavage
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These are potentially very useful to people, so it possible, could these please be rendered? Thank you.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtownhall
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre

@matkoniecz
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Can you propose how these places should be rendered?

@pnorman
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pnorman commented Sep 16, 2014

Were these ever rendered?

@nhsavage
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These are rendered in the humanitarian layer of open street map but not the standard layer. The community centre is an icon of two people with a roof over them and the town hall looks a bit like a Greek temple. An example map with both symbols on is here:http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/50.85636/-3.39279&layers=H

I have been told that "Previously, anything that had a name was rendered on the map" and I certainly remember seeing these on the standard layer until about a year ago. Then they disappeared when a decision was made only to render specific types of place.

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pnorman commented Sep 16, 2014

Yes, the catch-alls would have rendered them, but that's different than rendering those features.

@nhsavage
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Yes, I can see what you mean. The practical upshot though is that these features disappeared from the standard layer when the catch alls were removed. I am simply asking if they could (or should) be added back, as I think that they are useful to a general user of open street map.

@pnorman pnorman added this to the New features milestone Sep 16, 2014
@pnorman pnorman added enhancement new features Requests to render new features labels Sep 16, 2014
@dieterdreist
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I'm in favor. townhall is obvious, but also community centers would be a well fitting extension. Both also from zoom 16 not just 17=

@matthijsmelissen
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Partial duplicate with #77.

@matthijsmelissen matthijsmelissen changed the title please restore rendering of amenity=townhall and amenity=community_centre Add rendering for amenity=townhall and amenity=community_centre Sep 24, 2014
@matthijsmelissen matthijsmelissen changed the title Add rendering for amenity=townhall and amenity=community_centre Add rendering for amenity=community_centre Jan 13, 2015
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Removed townhall from this issue, duplicate with #77.

@polarbearing
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Many community_centres have a campus around the building. That should render, e.g. in "educational" yellow like kindergarten/school.

@dieterdreist
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2015-06-01 13:13 GMT+02:00 polarbearing notifications@github.com:

Many community_centres have a campus around the building. That should
render, e.g. in "educational" yellow like kindergarten/school.

This is very likely depending on the cultural setting, but I haven't found
an indice to associate community centres with "education" from reading the
wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre
and I also wouldn't have thought about education from my personal
expectations (at least not as "main" field).

I believe they are more places for celebrations, and maybe for some forms
of politics (public participation etc.)

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kocio-pl commented Jun 1, 2015

I think we should have an icon for it (like two people talking or sitting at the table) and at least render the name for the area. Does it sound reasonable?

@polarbearing
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Name and icon certainly helps. Area fill helps further to show dimensions.

@dieterdreist - I did not mean a community_centre is always educational, I just compared it. Might have better said amenity-yellow, though I know there is some debate about limiting its use.

I have seen some family of multi-generation oriented centres here, i.e. social meeting places.

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My drafts of the icon:

  1. community_centre-14-2
  2. community_centre-14-5
  3. community_centre-14-7
  4. community_centre-14-10
  5. community_centre-14-12

@pnorman
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pnorman commented Jul 29, 2015

I like 5, but looks a bit shelter-like

@polarbearing
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looks a bit shelter-like

Yes the indication of a roof is misleading. I have mapped plenty such places which have a building on a campus, for those the icon would often sit outdoors.

I like "standing with joined arms" as in 4, indicating a cooperative activity, which is not always at a table (as in 1+2).

The boundary could eventually be shown as outline, see also #1624.

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Updated versions of 4 (more enthusiastic cooperation I guess 😄 ) and 5:
6) community_centre-14-16
7) community_centre-14-17

@polarbearing
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Good. Three people joining hands are probably too much for our icon size?

@kocio-pl
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It's possible, but only 10 might work (if still readable for users):
8) community_centre-14-19
9) community_centre-14-23
10) community_centre-14-25

@daganzdaanda
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I prefer number 6. For me, 7 looks a bit like hiking, 10 is getting too abstract.
Would 6 look too unsharp if you made the stick figures fatter?
I don't mind the roof, the Humanitarian Style icon is OK, too.

@nhsavage
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I also don't mind the roof. I guess the challenge is that we all have different experiences of what this type of place is like, but I would see this as a building of some sort. If that would be confusing in some cases, I think my preference would be 6.

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  1. community_centre-14-27
  2. community_centre-14-29

@kocio-pl
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Field test (6, 7, 11, 12):
community_centre-thin-happy
community_centre-thin
community_centre-big-happy
community_centre-big

I would choose 6.

@pnorman
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pnorman commented Aug 14, 2015

When I first saw the images, without the above discussion, I thought they were washrooms.

@kocio-pl
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You're right, 7 and 12 are resembling standard toilet/washroom icons. I took the idea from Humanitarian style AFAIR, but somebody didn't like the roof and this is the outcome.

My original idea was something like 1 or 2 and I like them still, but people like 6 more, which in my opinion is different enough (no separation - quite the reverse =} ).

@tilmanb
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tilmanb commented Aug 14, 2015

I think example 3 (the one with the 3 people in a triangle) represents the "community" aspect in a good way.

@kocio-pl
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For me 3 looks more like a radiation warning, because details are too small and lack the context (in the original car sharing icon the context was clear).

@kocio-pl
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Light yellow background ("societal amenities") is now introduced by #2981.

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