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Project icon #138

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bilelmoussaoui opened this issue Jan 28, 2021 · 39 comments
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Project icon #138

bilelmoussaoui opened this issue Jan 28, 2021 · 39 comments

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@bilelmoussaoui
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I have got a deal with the GNOME design team to design us a logo in exchange for some code :P I opened this issue here to discuss that & offer feedback directly to @bertob

The first iteration suggested by Tobias looks like this
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In my opinion: I like the use of 🦀 but maybe make the hexagonal a cube instead, not necessarily the same cube as the gtk one for trademark reasons

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Nice! :D

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sdroege commented Jan 28, 2021

What's the trademark situation with ferris?

@bilelmoussaoui
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From a quick research the ferris is not trademarked https://twitter.com/rustlang/status/1141011659680559104 but public domain :) rustls seems to use it as a base for their logo as well
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sdroege commented Jan 29, 2021

Sounds good then :)

rustls seems to use it as a base for their logo as well

Well there are also projects using the (definitely trademark) Rust gears logo, or the GNOME foot or GTK boxes. It's just that nobody complained hard enough to those projects.

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Sounds good then :)

rustls seems to use it as a base for their logo as well

Well there are also projects using the (definitely trademark) Rust gears logo, or the GNOME foot or GTK boxes. It's just that nobody complained hard enough to those projects.

It seems the GNOME designers are trying to setup some kind of libraries "logos" design guidelines, we can just use that (see the suggestion of Tobias) and avoid using the GTK boxes to stay away from any possible issues in the future

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sophie-h commented Jun 2, 2021

@bertob We are currently thinking about a website overhaul (gtk-rs/gtk-rs.github.io#204). Is there a chance that you could update the project logo displayed in this issue to the new GNOME standards? Also having the white ferris icon as svg for the website would probably be neat.

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bertob commented Jun 3, 2021

In the mean time our thinking on library logos has changed somewhat. The new plan is to basically have a regular symbolic icon for each library, and just use that on a circle (or other shape, depending on the context) with a background color or gradient. We already rolled this out for libadwaita, here's and example what it could look like for gtk-rs:

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sophie-h commented Jun 4, 2021

I must say ferris is looking gorgeous today! I really like you stylized version of 🦀 and the more I look on the logo the more I like it.

I also like the new approach since it work quite good as chat logo etc. 32

One thing I was wondering: Do you have any idea for slight variation of the logo? We currently have a separation in Core, GTK 3 and GTK 4 in the project. The docs for example use a 100x100px logo. I was wondering if we could add some visual clue to guide users through this structure? But that's super optional.

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The logo looks nice!

One thing I was wondering: Do you have any idea for slight variation of the logo? We currently have a separation in Core, GTK 3 and GTK 4 in the project. The docs for example use a 100x100px logo. I was wondering if we could add some visual clue to guide users through this structure? But that's super optional.

Why would you want a slight modification of each repository? Sounds a bit strange no?

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sophie-h commented Jun 4, 2021

Why would you want a slight modification of each repository? Sounds a bit strange no?

I was thinking about people being confused at which docs they are currently looking. But yeah, just an idea. Also we hopefully reduced the confusion with the docs a lot with no longer linking GTK 3 from GTK 4 docs. Probably my idea stems from that time.

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sdroege commented Jun 4, 2021

OOC, which part of the logo is referring to GNOME or GTK? That looks like a generic Rust logo to me :) But otherwise looks nice.

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sophie-h commented Jun 4, 2021

which part of the logo is referring to GNOME or GTK

If we want to keep ferris (and I think we should keep her), maybe we could choose a non-ferris associated color? I would consider yellow, orange, red to be in the original ferris range. That would leave us with blue and purple (imo xD). I would try blue because that's the most GNOMEish it get's with colors.

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sophie-h commented Jun 4, 2021

Blue with website context:

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@GuillaumeGomez
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Bikeshedding and personal tase, the comeback: I like the icon in blue, but I don't like the blue you picked for the header... XD

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sdroege commented Jun 4, 2021

Which of the blues? There are two variants (I like them both FWIW, maybe the dark one a bit more).

@GuillaumeGomez
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Ah the first one, didn't see the second screenshot. ><

Yes, the second one looks good.

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Something I just thought about: how does the logo render on ayu and dark theme? I don't expect issues on the dark theme, however on the ayu one...

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sophie-h commented Jun 4, 2021

Something I just thought about: how does the logo render on ayu and dark theme? I don't expect issues on the dark theme, however on the ayu one...

"Don't theme my website!"

Sorry, I don't get what you are talking about.

@GuillaumeGomez
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I don't want themes on gtk-rs.org, don't worry. ;) I was talking about rustdoc pages (since I assume we will use the logo there as well).

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bertob commented Jun 4, 2021

which part of the logo is referring to GNOME or GTK? That looks like a generic Rust logo to me

I don't think we need to hit people over the head with GNOME/GTK-ness here, I think the glyph being in the style of our symbolics is enough.

No strong opinion about colors. I went with the red because it looked Rust-adjacent, but anything from the palette could probably work.

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sophie-h commented Jun 4, 2021

The red logo would certainly work. But I get the argument that it looks like a general rust logo.

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@bilelmoussaoui
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which part of the logo is referring to GNOME or GTK? That looks like a generic Rust logo to me

I don't think we need to hit people over the head with GNOME/GTK-ness here, I think the glyph being in the style of our symbolics is enough.

The logo isn't about GTK-rs (as in the rust bindings of GTK) itself neither. Because there are bindings of other core libraries like Pango, Cairo, GLib/Gio. The suggested logo as is doesn't really tell anything other than hey it's a rust related thing.

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bertob commented Jun 4, 2021

It's a Rust-related thing using the GNOME library icon style and colors :)

You don't want every one of our libraries to have to make a super obvious reference to GTK/GNOME, that gets tired very quickly.

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sophie-h commented Jun 4, 2021

You don't want every one of our libraries to have to make a super obvious reference to GTK/GNOME, that gets tired very quickly.

Yeah, I personally I would only be keen on staying away from looking too much like 'only like rust'.

The pink version also works for me. Expecting it to be a bit more controversial though.

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@GuillaumeGomez
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I like the pink version too. :)

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Hofer-Julian commented Jun 4, 2021

+1 for pink.

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sdroege commented Jun 5, 2021

Pink, red, blue seems all good to me :)

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sophie-h commented Jun 5, 2021

My impression is there is a tendency towards pink within active contributors. @bilelmoussaoui was unhappy that ferris isn't cute anymore. On the chat people wanted to throw in GTK symbols.

I would suggest the following: We are going with @bertob's version of the icon. Reasons: I don't think we can get ferris cute for 32x32px. Neither will there be aditionals symbols for GTK in 32x32px. Also, trademark and the question if we actually want a GTK symbol are not settled.

Maybe we will have a large variant of the logo one day. But I don't see that it will happen anytime soon.

Any thoughts?

@GuillaumeGomez
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Sounds good to me.

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sophie-h commented Jun 5, 2021

@bertob we have a go for the pink/purple variant. Can you finalize that version?

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bertob commented Jun 7, 2021

Some variants with purple:

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@bilelmoussaoui
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Oh I like the three last ones

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sdroege commented Jun 7, 2021

Oh no, now it's hard to decide again :) I like them all 4 but the ones with gradient a bit more.

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I like the one with pink gradient on top (the second one starting from the right).

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sophie-h commented Jun 7, 2021

I like the one with pink gradient on top (the second one starting from the right).

@bertob can you send this one as svg?

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bertob commented Jun 7, 2021

Pushed the SVG here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/library-icons/-/blob/master/gtk-rs.svg

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sophie-h commented Jun 7, 2021

Thanks @bertob. Since it is already on gtk-rs.org I guess we can close?

@bilelmoussaoui
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Before we close this, it seems like the 48px version of the logo looks very small on the docs
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while with 96px it looks much better
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do you think it's possible to provide us with a larger variant of the icon? :)

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sophie-h commented Jun 8, 2021

Fixed via gtk-rs/gtk-rs.github.io#209

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