Pi Zero 2 W compatibility? #2827
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No, it was theoretically just released 28 Oct 2021. I don't know of anyone who has received one yet, or where they are available. |
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https://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/raspberrypi-models-comparison |
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Would need to get one in hand for testing. Be interesting to see what the boot process is, what OS mods were made, etc. |
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I have one on the way and plan to give it a shot so fingers crossed if I remember ill give both the PI Zero OS and the PI 3 OS a go and i'll let you know. |
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I really would appreciate it. Also, please try 20200606 and dev20201026. |
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I've tried the standard 20200606 pi 3 release and no lights/no boot(expected due to incorrect kernel). So have copied over the latest kernel including the Pi Zero 2 one and am now getting lights but no network connection. Will attempt to connect a screen to see if it's giving any errors out |
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im going to try the pi zero image and give that a go |
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I was afraid of that. buildroot, and ThingOS set up VERY specific chip combinations (CPU/GPU/WiFi) per version which is why 4b-8GB doesn't work on 20200606 but does work on dev20201026 (and the PiZeroW2 was but a 'gleam in the eye' of RPiFoundation. For now, I doubt if it will be a supported board with motionEyeOS, until @ccrisan can do a re-build. It should have no issues with building motionEye with the RPiOS or any others that can still support Python2.7. |
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Yep no luck on my end, I wonder if it's time to sell my soul to the devil and write my own kernal |
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Did you try dev20201026? |
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yep no luck |
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Have you tried PI-dev20201026 or Pi3-dev20201026 out of curiosity? |
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PI-3 Dev no luck I'll try the PI one |
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Thanks. Like I said, the motionEyeOS is very chip combination specific from buildroot and ThingOS. We'll have to wait until the next build to get the PiZeroW2 included. |
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I got my Pi Zero 2s today, and proceeded with testing. Neither the RPi Zero 1 (motioneyeos-raspberrypi-20200606.img.xz) nor the RPi 3 (motioneyeos-raspberrypi3-20200606.img) images work - neither allows the RPi Zero 2 to boot (no LEDs seen, no network handshake/connectivity to router). |
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T'was my fear, the images are very chip specific. As I stated above, we'll have to wait. I do thank you for testing. |
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I've succeeded in booting MotioneyeOS on my Pi Zero 2 W, required changes are available in PR #2829 |
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Many thanks, @jawsper, hopefully it will be added soon. |
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As motioneyeos is based on thingOS, I would expect the changes to be integrated there. I created a ticket to keep track of it: |
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i received it today. I hop a release of meyeos soon! :) |
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MotionEye https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye/wiki |
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Hi everyone! Any update on this? I have received my Pi Zero 2's and would really like to start using them. I have the same issue as r00kieone.....cant seem to build the image. @jawsper Can you please share the image file that works? |
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Just got my 2 W. The 20200606 hangs at the 4 enlarged pixels from the graphics chip and never goes further. I’m happy to help test a new image if one is available. |
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Currently, the only confirmed way to go is RaspberryPiOS Lite, and motionEye found here: |
no fast camera support, right? |
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That would be correct, as Fast Network Camera is an option only available in motionEyeOS. The program that FNC uses is available, as 'streamEye' and can be seen here: |
tank you. i'll wait a meyeos release for this board :). i need fast camera. |
I agree with Starbasessd, On the Pi Zero2 Just a newbie's input :) |
You convinced me already at this..... 👍 |
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For the 'official' Pi images, you CAN install and run on a 2GB SDCard, as long as you are doing ALL storage of pics and movies on a NAS somewhere, or another external drive... Just another 'feature'. Might change when the next image comes out (Bullseye, probably, with additional chipsets for CM4s and PiZero2Ws, etc) |
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I have a 32GB card (and indeed, use a SMB3 mount to my synology for storage). So storage will not be the bottleneck here.
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motionEyeOS is for a dedicated camera/hub. If you want to run anything else in addition to motionEye (mostly aimed at Pi3, Pi3B+, Pi4-2GB, Pi4-4GB, Pi4-8GB) you will (probably) want to run on RPiOS (best hardware support). If you need NFS NAS support, you need another OS. If you only need SAMBA/CIFS, FTP/SFTP/SCP, GDrive, Dropbox, you can go with motionEyeOS (all built in). It is possible to run additional scripts it can be done if bash or python2. If you need additional drivers for hats or hardware, you might be able to do them, but it might be 'fun' trying... |
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You might run into a bottleneck with lack of RAM. I doubt you'll be CPU constrained since it's rated 4-5 times faster than the PiZeroW, and pretty much equivalent to a Pi3B... |
All very nice info, thanks again! I'm just going to try and see the differences. Now flashing my card... then installing all the motion-stuff manually. Will post updates here, for future reference. |
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Be sure to follow the correct instructions for the correct OS... |
Yes, will use this doc: https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye/wiki/Install-on-Raspbian-Bullseye |
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Well.. that was quick: I just installed the latest version of motioneye on my PiZero2W, running the latest (original) Bullseye raspberryOS. No problems so far; the camera has been detected and everything works fine. |
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One of those things mentioned above. |
jow, no it was the default value of the "smb_shared" properry. It is described in the (excellent) docs: https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye/wiki/Configuration-File#smb_shares |
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Sorry, I was thinking from the either direction... |
I just noticed that you are the maintained of the docs. Nice job 👍 . |
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Maintainer, yes. Creator of a lot of them, no. If you notice something that can be updated or improved, create another issue, and I'll see what I can do. |
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Will do. 👍 |
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After a while, Jasper image looks stable. |
Is a function of RaspberryPiOS, not motionEyeOS. There are a couple that were supported back when the last image was created, and a couple more are supported now in the last Buster image, haven't really looked at Bullseye and supported 5GHz dongles. The WiFi chip in the PiZero2W is 5GHz capable, doesn't @jawsper s image update the driver? |
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I read the Pi Zero 2 W is NOT 5Ghz capable... |
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Sorry, you are correct. The early site I saw that on does have a correction posted. My bad.
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Starbasessd - Thanks so much for pointing me in the right direction. The Zero 2 W has booted and one camera is working fine, the other two are in a box for now. I would like to ask two more questions, neither needs to be answered if it's too much trouble: 1) most important to me, is there a way to alter motioneyesos to add, what is now, an incompatible camera? I have several iCamera-1000's and would like to use them. They are attached to my home network and accessible via IP. And, 2) what did you do to create a Zero 2 W fork? I'd like to learn more. I'm a retired Hardware/Software Engineer just having fun but my career was in writing user applications and utilities, I've done very little OS development work, except in school back in the stone age. |
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Hi @RodCleaves, it was quite simply a matter of updating some packages such as the Linux kernel used and the specific Raspberry Pi firmware to a version new enough that support for the Zero 2W was included. I only had to change these files in motioneyeos: https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneyeos/pull/2829/files |
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1 There is a wonderous website with IP Camera settings available at ispyconnect.com that may be of assistance. If your camera is an icam model 1000 I found these: |
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jawsper, starbassessd, thanks for the quick response. It sounds like we had similar career paths (starassessed), my favorite job was working on the design team at Data General for the Eclipse S140/Nova 4. There was only one instruction decoder PROM that separated them - a 10 cent item that we charged an extra $4,000 to purchase. It was the best time of my life. Then, I became a CIO with the government. It seems more like I escaped rather than retired. I strongly suggest to NEVER work for the US government. OOP was becoming a "thing" when I moved on so I'm a bit behind the times. I'm having fun again though. Python's actually pretty versatile. I think I stumbled onto ispyconnect a while back, I'll look again. jawsper, thanks I'll look at that as soon as I get my house secure again. We've been without surveillance for a few weeks while I figure this out. I come from a time when we had to compile our OSes everytime we moved computers but then again, we only had 28K of RAM <- yes that was a "K". :) take care, all. rod BTW, I'm near Lowell, MA if anyone's in the area. |
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I'm located across the river from the Fastest 2 Minutes in Sports (employed there for 7 years). |
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Hi, |
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20200606 doesn't work on a PiZero2W, have to get the other forked image |
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I am closing this issue due to the number of responses here. Please open a new issue if you are having issues. |
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Hi,
Pi Zero 2 W is supposed to be Pi 3 compatible in Pi Zero format.
Has someone tested it with motioneyeos?
Regards,
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