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Add quorum rules #253

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williamkapke opened this issue Apr 20, 2017 · 8 comments
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Add quorum rules #253

williamkapke opened this issue Apr 20, 2017 · 8 comments

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@williamkapke
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It doesn't seem that the TSC has quorum defined. I think (in practice) it has been "a majority of the TSC" for the rule.

So, ya'll can simply write that down... or maybe bikeshed over something more creative; like: "a majority of active TSC members." And then define what "active" means. Of course, new attendance rules will make the idea of "active" irrelevant over time (right?).. but in the interim, quorum could be obtainable without removing people. Food for thought.

Aside: @Trott put effort towards this for the CTC:
add information about CTC quorum rules

@jasnell
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jasnell commented Apr 20, 2017

Before we go too far down this road, I would like us to give some serious thought to how the TSC is fundamentally structured in the first place.

@williamkapke
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Adding a simple quorum rule could be fast- so I think it could be done in parallel- restructuring is pretty major and I'd guess it would take a really long time.

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nebrius commented Apr 20, 2017

Reading through the charter, I believe this is already defined. In the TSC charter section on voting:

If an agenda item cannot reach a consensus a TSC member can call for either a closing vote or a vote to table the issue to the next meeting. The call for a vote must be seconded by a majority of the TSC or else the discussion will continue. Simple majority wins, with the following exceptions, which will require the affirmative vote of two-thirds of the members of the TSC to pass:

Adding or removing members of the TSC
Changes to the TSC Charter (which also require Board approval)

FWIW we don't use the term "quorum" in any of our documents, but we do define voting as being a simple majority of the TSC (active or not, present or not).

@williamkapke
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@nebrius Fair enough I guess. We'd just need to stop saying phrases like "Not enough people attending meetings to reach quorum" because the TSC just doesn't operate on "quorum."

@Fishrock123
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let's just amend that Simple majority wins with ("quorum") if we must be so... nitpicky?

@williamkapke
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quorum is specifically about a meeting and, if achieved, its qualification to produce official decisions- whereas the text that @nebrius quoted is about an individual decision.

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joshgav commented May 10, 2017

@williamkapke

quorum is specifically about a meeting and, if achieved, its qualification to produce official decisions

I believe this means that if a meeting has quorum its decisions would be binding independent of other means of consensus. I don't think we want that - IMHO meetings are simply an avenue to speed up consensus, but binding decisions should always be based on that consensus.

So I suppose I'm -1 for now to adding the concept of quorum to the TSC.

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jasnell commented Sep 16, 2017

Closing due to lack of any further activity. Can reopen if necessary. A PR would likely be better than an issue tho

@jasnell jasnell closed this as completed Sep 16, 2017
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