Very outdated mirror?

[justinclift]

Hiyas,

Was looking to try out HPN-SSH on a Debian 12 (Bookworm) system, however clicking on the generic link here:

    https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/rapier1

... bounces to a very outdated mirror for Australia:

    https://mirrorcache-au.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/rapier1/

The packages there are dated April 2023 (1 year out of date), and don't list the version of Debian I'm using.

With a bit more digging though, it turns out the packages are actually available:

    https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/rapier1/

It looks like this mirror needs to be re-synced, or perhaps even taken out of the mirror selection rotation. (?)

Are you ok to get this looked at? 😄

[andrii-suse]

mirrorcache-au is not a mirror, but a mirror redirector - it doesn't keep or serve files, but tries to sync info about files on mirrors and redirect requests to proper mirrors.
What you see in https://mirrorcache-au.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/rapier1/ indeed looks outdated, but inside
https://mirrorcache-au.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/rapier1/Debian_11/
or even
https://mirrorcache-au.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/rapier1/Debian_12/
the files should look more recent.

So this is something to improve in MirrorCache, because currently it keeps fresh only folders with real files, which may be confusing for humans, but is perfectly ok for zypper.

[justinclift]

which may be confusing for humans, but is perfectly ok for zypper.

Ahh. I get it. "The humans using those pages aren't important, so lets disregard anyone who attempts to view that stuff."

Or am I misreading that? 😉

[justinclift]

As an additional data point, I was attempting to make use of that repo from a Debian system, as that repo directory is where some OBS Debian builds end up.

Not real sure why what zypper happens to be ok with is even a consideration, as that directory isn't meant for zypper.

[andrii-suse]

Not real sure why what zypper happens to be ok with is even a consideration, as that directory isn't meant for zypper.

Oh, by zypper I meant package managers in general: for apt some outdated views (like that which you complained) is not a problem as well. All apt cares is uptodate Release and Packages files - and those should be fine.

[justinclift]

K. It'll be good when MirrorCache is updated so it works with the needs of the human users too. 😉

[andrii-suse]

There is a small improvement - the page now shows state when the list was synced last (bottom under the list of files).
And humans now can request the sync if needed. (login with opensuse account is required).

I agree that automatic sync would be good to have as well, but considering many factors involved (additional load on server trying to keep in sync all folders, relatively low priority with many other tasks pending, a workaround with manual request) - I don't plan to implement it at the moment. So I can close the ticket or it can remain open until resources allow a proper solution.

[justinclift]

Cool, that sounds like things are heading in the right direction. 😄

[justinclift]

... or it can remain open until resources allow a proper solution.

Sorry for be a pain, and thank you for the time clearly spent on this already.

Personally I feel the right choice of the two options is to keep this open until (if 😉) resources allow for a more complete solution. 😄