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inclined elevators #75

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ghost opened this issue Dec 5, 2020 · 4 comments
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inclined elevators #75

ghost opened this issue Dec 5, 2020 · 4 comments
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ghost commented Dec 5, 2020

Following a discussion on the tagging mailing list, I wonder if it would be valuable to have a preset with highway=elevator on a way to map inclined elevators. This is explicitly supported by the wiki.
railway=funicular is often used for that purpose instead, but there are many indoors inclined elevators that really look and behave like regular elevators and not funiculars at all; see for example the left of the picture in this article or on the right here.

Those elevators are not displayed on the default OSM map, and one of the arguments against supporting them there is that they are rare in the database... but I suspect they are rare mostly because they are not supported by editors in the first place. I personally know several of those elevators around Stockholm, and they may be common in other places too.

In addition, when typing "elevator" in the search bar for the feature type when selecting a way, only irrelevant results appear, which might lead some features to be incorrectly tagged.
Right now this is what I get on Firefox:
elevator_search

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manfredbrandl commented Dec 5, 2020

There is also a wiki for escalators which what your examples show (look at the bottom just above the pictures): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps

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And there is an even better suited part of the Wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:conveying

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ghost commented Dec 5, 2020

Sorry I wasn't clear. I am not talking about the escalators, but about the elevators that run parallel to them.

Edit: a few more examples.

@quincylvania quincylvania transferred this issue from openstreetmap/iD Dec 7, 2020
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This sounds okay. Elevators are important for accessibility, so we should try to support them as completely as we can. I don't expect most mappers to know the technical difference between inclined elevators and funiculars, but I expect most could look at a large cable railways versus a small urban elevator and know which is which.

One thing to note is that there are some highway=elevator micromapped as areas in OSM, and if they're missing area=yes then iD will erroneously consider them to be inclined elevator lines.

@quincylvania quincylvania added this to the Next Release milestone Dec 11, 2020
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