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Freezing with System Shock 1, Descent (And various other games) #45

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AhmedAbdulFaisal opened this issue May 25, 2024 · 1 comment
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AhmedAbdulFaisal commented May 25, 2024

System Shock

I am trying to run System Shock 1 with the picogus and it oftentimes freezes up, forcing me to reboot my computer. This is a game which utilizes a bat file (shockgus.bat) to actually load the patches before playing. The card works fine for other games like DOOM, Epic Pinball, and Jazz Jackrabbit with no freezes.

When I use the Soundblaster 2.0 firmware and delete the SET commands (With blaster variables) it detects fine within the setup program and the main menu, but it freezes up when I load up a game. Sometimes when using the GUS version of the card it will lock up after a while of playing around. In both cases the system eventually locks up. If I set up Soundblaster as both in the install menu the game will run up until I change volume or just keep on playing - it will also end up freezing or seriously lagging.

I don't know if it's a resource conflict, I have a networking card which is disabled within the autoexec sometimes and it has no issues when working with other games (for instance, IPX-multiplayer DOOM). I'm guessing it's some sort of issue with System Shock and the Gravis Ultrasound, would it be a good idea to install another sound card just for this game?

Here are my specs:

Video Card: Trio64v
Motherboard: Supermicro P5StE (American Megatrends, Intel 430HX)
CPU: Pentium 133 (non-mmx)
Sound Card: PicoGUS configured at IRQ5, Port 240, IRQ 5 and DMA 1
Networking Card: 3COM Etherlink Combo ISA card

My Autoexec for the ultrasound is:

SET ULTRASND=240,1,1,5,5 (Now changed to IRQ 7)
SET ULTRADIR=C:\ULTRASND
C:\PICOGUS\PGUSINIT.EXE

My soundblaster is set at 220 with IRQ 7 and DMA 1. It works fine with other games (With no 32 in)

EDIT: I tried the soundblaster mode on a 486 playing SS1 and it works fine, no complaints there.

Descent

The card also seems to freeze on Descent, same specs and I did some trial and error with other cards pulled in and out. Descent appears to crash on level 3 after a few seconds, giving a dump error starting with:

USE32, byte granular limit, FFFFFFFF, base 0, acc CF93
(error continues with similar messages until it ends with a C:\Descent>)

AUTOEXEC
SET ULTRASND=240,1,1,5,5
SET ULTRADIR=C:\ULTRASND
C:\PICOGUS\PGUSINIT.EXE
prompt $p$g
path c:\dos;

CONFIG.SYS
DEVICE=C:\dos\himem.sys
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE
DOS=HIGH
BUFFERS = 30
files = 30

I'm guessing this is because the game runs out of memory with the Gravis Ultrasound, I did try a clean bootdisk (shown above) and it gives the same problem. Not sure what's up here, happens with and without the soundblaster 32 and 3com card inside. The card also seems to exhibit the same issues on other levels, some more frequently, and other levels have their instruments removed (Level 1 of Descent has no strings during the main part of the song). I have tried switching DMAs and addresses to no avail.

EDIT: Upon opening descent's MIDI files, I find that they crash at around the same areas using a midi player, so I'm curious if this is a descent issue and not a card issue. If anyone has a legitimate gravis card and wants to try out various levels lmk

Other Games

Other games like TIE fighter, ROTT, and TES: Arena will work for a bit but then freeze, I have two cards set up, the SB32 is for a gamepad controller and AWE32 support when I'd like it, nothing much.

Soundblaster 32 at 220H, IRQ 5, DMA 0, 5
PicoGUS as 240H, IRQ 7, DMA 1
PicoGUS SB at 220H, IRQ7, DMA 1 (Yes I am aware of the conflict with the SB32)

I'm guessing this is just because those games are dodgy with GUS support (Which is understandable) but I'll just list them here. I would like confirmation on TES and TIE because those aren't on the compatibility list. These games still have issues without the SB32 installed as well, with some exceptions (Descent and ROTT have perfect SB accuracy)

@AhmedAbdulFaisal AhmedAbdulFaisal changed the title Freezing with System Shock 1 Freezing with System Shock 1 (And various other games) May 27, 2024
@AhmedAbdulFaisal AhmedAbdulFaisal changed the title Freezing with System Shock 1 (And various other games) Freezing with System Shock 1, Descent (And various other games) Jun 6, 2024
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trumpetlicks commented Nov 17, 2024

Im having this problem with DOOM. I am running (currently) a very simplisitc setup of an:
Abit AB-AX5 MOBO
Intel P233 MMX
64 MB RAM
1 MB 1GUI6440 Graphics card
and the PicoGUS

It runs just fine with no hickups in sound blaster mode, but completely freezes the rig (not even playing, but just in the intro) in GUS mode.

in Sound Blaster Mode, it is setup for
220, 5, 1 (Default)

in GUS mode
240 (rest the same as SB mode)

I AM running the latest PicoGUS 2.1.0 firmware and pgusinit

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