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Change default sig_figs value to 8 #1308

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@WardBrian WardBrian commented Jan 14, 2025

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  • Run tests: ./runCmdStanTests.py src/test
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Summary:

Closes #1307

Intended Effect:

Increase the number of outputs saved by default

How to Verify:

Run a model without changing the sig_figs argument

Side Effects:

Additional storage may be required

Documentation:

TBD

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Name Old Result New Result Ratio Performance change( 1 - new / old )
arma/arma.stan 0.34 0.33 1.04 3.66% faster
low_dim_corr_gauss/low_dim_corr_gauss.stan 0.01 0.01 0.98 -2.28% slower
gp_regr/gen_gp_data.stan 0.03 0.03 0.98 -1.67% slower
gp_regr/gp_regr.stan 0.1 0.1 1.01 1.31% faster
sir/sir.stan 72.62 71.38 1.02 1.72% faster
irt_2pl/irt_2pl.stan 4.41 4.19 1.05 4.86% faster
eight_schools/eight_schools.stan 0.06 0.06 1.03 2.52% faster
pkpd/sim_one_comp_mm_elim_abs.stan 0.26 0.26 1.0 0.09% faster
pkpd/one_comp_mm_elim_abs.stan 20.22 19.9 1.02 1.58% faster
garch/garch.stan 0.46 0.44 1.05 4.91% faster
low_dim_gauss_mix/low_dim_gauss_mix.stan 2.81 2.86 0.98 -1.63% slower
arK/arK.stan 1.82 1.88 0.97 -3.57% slower
gp_pois_regr/gp_pois_regr.stan 2.93 2.99 0.98 -1.82% slower
low_dim_gauss_mix_collapse/low_dim_gauss_mix_collapse.stan 9.15 9.12 1.0 0.41% faster
performance.compilation 193.06 190.72 1.01 1.21% faster
Mean result: 1.0082349896964151

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also need to change the CmdStan docs

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also need to change the CmdStan docs

Yes, will change several places if this gets merged

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Soliciting more opinions @bob-carpenter @SteveBronder @avehtari

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Can you try with the example in stan-dev/cmdstanr#420 (it's an issue in CmdStanR repo, but can be tested with any approach calling standalone generated quantities)?

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@avehtari for the specific example you link, it does appear to be resolved by this PR (passed over 100 times in a row)

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I think there's a slipped default, so I took the liberty of suggesting a wording change while you're at it.

_default = "-1";
_default_value = -1;
= "0 <= integer <= 18, or -1 to use the system library's default "
"number of significant figures (usually 6).";
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shouldn't this 6 be an 8?

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No, -1 is preserved to do the same thing as before, which is to just not specify any target precision when the stream is created, leaving it with whatever your OS defaults to. This is why it’s the “system library’s default”, not ours — 6 comes from glibc and friends.

If we want, we can make -1 synonymous with our default (8) instead

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(Though I should note, if you want to use Stan’s default, a reasonable option is just not pass this argument at all…)

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I don't think this is a huge backward compatiblity concern and it would certainly be simple to have just one default. In which case, I don't think we'd need a behavior for -1, which would simplify the doc.

Having said that, I think it's OK for "unspecified" to be the Stan default and -1 the system default as long as it's a bit more clearly stated in the doc that the system default is the underlying system default, not the Stan default.

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I would prefer to just not allow -1 at all, but removing a valid value would definitely break at least somebody’s code

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Good point---I missed that was the old default!

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I've updated the wording. Here's what the full help text reads as now:

    sig_figs=<int>
      The number of significant figures used for the output CSV files.
      Valid values: 0 <= integer <= 18, or -1 to use the current operating system's default number of significant figures (This will vary, but on many systems it is 6).
      Defaults to 8

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Name Old Result New Result Ratio Performance change( 1 - new / old )
arma/arma.stan 0.34 0.39 0.87 -15.49% slower
low_dim_corr_gauss/low_dim_corr_gauss.stan 0.01 0.01 0.96 -4.64% slower
gp_regr/gen_gp_data.stan 0.02 0.02 0.98 -2.33% slower
gp_regr/gp_regr.stan 0.1 0.09 1.01 1.36% faster
sir/sir.stan 70.61 70.61 1.0 0.0% slower
irt_2pl/irt_2pl.stan 4.13 3.88 1.06 6.07% faster
eight_schools/eight_schools.stan 0.07 0.05 1.25 19.69% faster
pkpd/sim_one_comp_mm_elim_abs.stan 0.26 0.24 1.07 6.59% faster
pkpd/one_comp_mm_elim_abs.stan 19.8 18.86 1.05 4.74% faster
garch/garch.stan 0.43 0.4 1.07 6.31% faster
low_dim_gauss_mix/low_dim_gauss_mix.stan 2.76 2.58 1.07 6.31% faster
arK/arK.stan 1.83 1.7 1.07 6.73% faster
gp_pois_regr/gp_pois_regr.stan 2.89 2.7 1.07 6.41% faster
low_dim_gauss_mix_collapse/low_dim_gauss_mix_collapse.stan 8.86 8.35 1.06 5.82% faster
performance.compilation 194.07 182.6 1.06 5.91% faster
Mean result: 1.042847637560979

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Vulnerability L1tf: Mitigation; PTE Inversion; VMX conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
Vulnerability Mds: Mitigation; Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Vulnerability Meltdown: Mitigation; PTI
Vulnerability Mmio stale data: Mitigation; Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Vulnerability Reg file data sampling: Not affected
Vulnerability Retbleed: Mitigation; IBRS
Vulnerability Spec rstack overflow: Not affected
Vulnerability Spec store bypass: Mitigation; Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
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Vulnerability Spectre v2: Mitigation; IBRS; IBPB conditional; STIBP conditional; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS Not affected; BHI Not affected
Vulnerability Srbds: Not affected
Vulnerability Tsx async abort: Mitigation; Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
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I still find two things about this confusing:

  • the use of "integer"---is that in other ones of these?
  • there's no mention that the platform default is not the Stan default

But if you want to go with it like this, I'm just going to approve because it's not worth a lot of back and forth.

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