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New Quest: Artwork Type #2125
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I see you already looked for some fitting pictures, thanks for this! Could you also supply the link for your picture suggestions? Generally, the pictures should show examples of artwork outside and a little bit in the context of their surroundings (like the pics for statue, stone, installation), because this is what users will see and be asked for. Some more comments for particular pictures:
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The pictures are all just the examples from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:artwork_type. I will try to spend some time finding some open-licensed examples or try to take some photos myself. I agree that they should be outside. I was thinking last night about mosaic/tilework, and the more commonly tagged Installations are interesting and somewhat confusing. I think they may sometimes incorporate sculptural elements, but that doesn't make them a sculpture. I'll look into this. |
What kind of creative commons licenses are compatible with SC? |
CC-BY, CC-BY-SA and CC-0 are preferred |
I've been collecting photos of local artwork, but many of them aren't great exemplars of their category. I'm looking for art that is actually decent, too, not just some local piece in a cultural desert. Ideally, I think the photo should have a neutral (natural) background, too, and a lot of art around here is in a busy environment. Here's one I took of an For the other categories, I know of a few local murals that are decent, as well as some possible busts and statues. The rest I do not think I can fill with local art. I welcome other contributors to add examples, and I do plan to look for CC-licensed photos of the other options. One other thing: I think that there should be an option in text form for other options, notably to say that the artwork is of a different type, and also to say the artwork is no longer there (which would delete? or just add a note?). |
I like this suggestion! And I've been thinking for a long time about creating a suggestion for a quest for the name of statues/artwork (when they have a plaque with a name), but I've been unsure if this would be of interest to anyone else. Just asking here if you think I should create a new issue with this quest suggestion? :) |
I copied your comment and responded at #2399 |
These all look great! Thanks for taking the time to collect all of these images. I looked through them all, and I don't see any issues with any of them being confusing or misleading. That said, of course, the difference between mural and graffiti is vague and confusing on its own... Good call on not including 'painting', because it adds to the ambiguity. Quick thought: For the UI, it would be great to have a number of options that fit into the grid perfectly (in my opinion). You've found examples for 10 options. Would it be feasible to get it to 9? Based on TagInfo, 'relief' is the least-used of the 10 ('painting' excluded). |
Is this data used already? Personally, I am far more motivated to select for implementation parts adding data used already (even if it is tiny project) |
I have been working on a project of my own that finds these points, hence my interest in starting this quest. I'm hosting it on my personal webspace at the moment, so for privacy reasons I'd like to avoid sharing it here. Hopefully when I get it looking a little nicer, I can host it somewhere more public. Other than my selfish work, I don't know of anything pulling these tags (and I've browsed a lot). As for artwork tags, though, maybe the name quest could include art without a name yet? That would be visible on many maps. (I can open a new issue for this if needed.) |
Depends on how often artworks have unsurveyable names. I know many minor scultptures across my city with no clear name (not well known, not signed) - for example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3037415495 Is it useful to tag |
Could you publish this quest without names? |
Requiring or not names is a tweak that can be decided at the end (and changed after release) |
As someone who's also interested in mapping public art, I strongly support this! I also think it might be helpful to include "This is a memorial" as an option in the "other answers" menu on this quest, which would remove |
I don't see anything on the wiki about this, but I've sometimes tagged memorials with I've seen nothing dissuading concurrent tagging like this, so I'm not sure that removing the |
Fair enough! According to taginfo, there is some overlap, with roughly 3-4% of both That said, there is this statement on the page for statue specifically:
But while I interpret that to mean "use instead" of the artwork tags, that's not explicit. And the discussion page is people wondering exactly that same thing. Where I am, the (slightly) more common situation I notice is for objects that are obviously memorials to be tagged only as artwork. So I would still like to eventually see an option to add |
Just to note SCEE (StreetComplete "Expert Edition" fork) implements this quest, but just in spartan form with names without pictures. Might be useful as a base for StreetComplete Quest, if someone is patient to sort, resize and trim those pictures... (or if someone is to impatient waiting for this quest; and wants to map those details right now) |
If the pictures don't add extra value, i.e. the answer options can be understood by name just as well, I am generally fine with text-only answer options like that as well, by the way. Some options may actually need an explanation in the same manner as some building options may need an explanation, although a picture might not provide such explanation. In any case, the extra value provided by an image or icon is faster and easier recognition |
statue / bust / sculpture and relief may benefit from images the same for graffiti / mural distinction |
And land art needs at least a description: Plus probably an other answer of geoglyph: |
General
Affected tag(s) to be modified/added: artwork_type=*
Question asked: What type of artwork is this?
I have been adding artwork information to the map because I thought my region was starved for public art. It turns out there's a lot, but a lot of information is missing from OSM. Many pieces (not just in my area) are tagged solely with
tourism=artwork
and no more. At the bare minimum, I think adding what type of art it is would be nice, although adding name and artist tags could be good too (the one could be added to the name quest?).Checklist
Checklist for quest suggestions (see guidelines):
This tag can be derived from street-level imagery, but almost certainly not satellite.
Any one region should not encounter this tag very often. In my small city center, there are 7 untagged artworks.
There are 147,213 total
tourism=artwork
, 100,129 are tagged withartwork_type
, leaving around 47,000 to survey.Ideas for implementation
Element selection:
It might not be necessary to ask about relations, but nodes and ways are clear enough to answer.
Metadata needed:
None? Some artwork types from the wiki are probably very regional, but I would think limiting to the most-used options would eliminate this concern (e.g the Spanish/Portuguese
artwork_type=azulejo
is only used 8 times).Proposed GUI:
I think it should be along the lines of the surface quest, with square images with a short label on top of them. Most of the images from the wiki are decent representations, but some might be vague, such as Installation or Mural vs. Painting.
What type of artwork is this?
Sculpture
Statue (person or animal)
Mural (wall/ceiling artwork)
Graffiti
Installation
Bust
Stone
Painting
Architecture
Mosaic/Tilework
Relief
Note: Re: Mosaic/Tilework,
=mosaic
is far more common, but the wiki mentions=tilework
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