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Laptops unable to boot menu on 1.0.24 #533

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rossengeorgiev opened this issue Oct 19, 2020 · 10 comments
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Laptops unable to boot menu on 1.0.24 #533

rossengeorgiev opened this issue Oct 19, 2020 · 10 comments

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@rossengeorgiev
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Tested this on Lenovo and Dell laptops with EFI. When I select the USB drive, and try to boot it, nothing happens. Downgrading via update to 1.0.22 did not resolve the issue. However, clearing ventoy, and then installing 1.0.22 fixed issue and I was able to boot to the menu.

@ventoy
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ventoy commented Oct 20, 2020

What about clearing ventoy and fresh install Ventoy-1.0.24?

@rossengeorgiev
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rossengeorgiev commented Oct 20, 2020

Didn't work. The lenovo laptop I recently updated from Ubuntu 19 to 20, and ventoy used to boot fine. Now you won't boot even on a clean 1.0.22. MOK has the key enrolled as well. I'm not sure what changed. Worth mentioning that secure boot is enabled, and unfortunately I can't disable it :(

For the dell laptop, which is EFI only, it doesn't work on 1.0.24 regardless of secureboot on or off.

@ventoy
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ventoy commented Oct 20, 2020

Please try as follows in the dell laptop (The 2 conditions must be met at the same time):

  1. Don't enable the secure boot support option when install Ventoy
  2. Turn off the secure boot in BIOS

@rossengeorgiev
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rossengeorgiev commented Oct 21, 2020

I managed to unlock my lenovo. Here is matrix of the various combinations I tried. The ID indicates unique flash drive.

ventoy SecureBoot USB Drive lenovo x1 dell 7391 2in1
fresh 10.0.22/1.0.24 without SB off 32GB DT3.0 ID:1 ok ok
fresh 10.0.22/1.0.24 with SB on 32GB DT3.0 ID:1 NO ok
fresh 10.0.22/1.0.24 without SB off 64GB DT3.0 ID:2 ok ok
fresh 10.0.22/1.0.24 with SB on 64GB DT3.0 ID:2 NO ok

I'm no longer able to replicate the other problem where I updated from 1.0.22 to .24 and dell laptop wont see it. Tried same usb stick, and another one. I've scanned them for problem, and found no issue.

I wonder if the Lenovo has a BIOS issue, I'll check if there is an update

@ghost
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ghost commented Oct 24, 2020

Secure boot is currently an experimental feature and won't flawlessly work on all devices. In some laptops it may and on some it may not so you might need to disable secure boot if needed .

This is clearly stated on official website of ventoy under secure boot section.

@ValdikSS
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ValdikSS commented Mar 4, 2021

#676 (comment)

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ventoy commented Oct 18, 2021

@rossengeorgiev What about the latest release?

@kevinf100
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kevinf100 commented Oct 12, 2022

@rossengeorgiev What about the latest release?

I can confirm this is still a problem. Exact same thing with my Lenovo laptop. Select the USB in boot menu (or in BIOs) and it just ignores it and boots into windows. Works just fine with my Desktop and way older and worst Dell laptop. I tried changing a few options including secure boot (in the BIOs), but it just seems the laptop doesn't care.

@steve6375
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Ventoy can make a GPT USB disk or an MBR USB disk. Ventoy can make a drive with Secure Boot support or without Secure Boot support.
So this is FOUR DIFFERENT WAYS that you can make a Ventoy USB drive. Did you test all of these with 1.0.80?

@kevinf100
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kevinf100 commented Oct 12, 2022

Just tried with MBR secure off (in ventoy) and it booted into ventoy. Interesting that even with secure boot off in the BIOs it refuses to boot with ventoy (with secure on in ventoy) and gave no error or anything.
Thanks.

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