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# HyperAgents 2025: Hybrid Meeting
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The [Second International Workshop on Hypermedia Multi-Agent Systems (HyperAgents 2025)](https://ecai2025.hyperagents.org/) is organized in conjunction with [ECAI 2025](https://ecai2025.org/) on October 26, 2025, in Bologna, Italy. The workshop program is available [at this link](https://ecai2025.hyperagents.org/program/).
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The WebAgents CG joins this event for a hybrid meeting in the afternoon of October 25, 2025.
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## Agenda
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| CET | Agenda |
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| 14:00 - 14:15 | Welcome & Agenda Setting |
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| 14:15 - 15:30 | Focused Discussion |
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| 15:30 - 16:00 | Coffee Break |
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| 16:00 - 17:00 | Demo / Hands-on session |
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| 17:00 - 17:30 | Wrap-up and Next Steps |
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The main topic of the focussed discussion are the architectural patterns discussed in the context of the interoperability report (see [current version](https://deploy-preview-92--w3cwebagentscg.netlify.app/)).
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## Meeting Coordinates
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The meeting is held in Sala del Consiglio, the Engineering School, University of Bologna [(see venue details)](https://ecai2025.org/venues/).
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For the Zoom connection details, see the [calendar entry](http://w3.org/events/meetings/11085779-70fd-46de-8759-5aaf0616f892/). Online participation is on a best-effort basis.
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For taking notes collaboratively, we set up a [shared editable online document](https://semestriel.framapad.org/p/webagents-ecai2025-ahj0).
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# WebAgents TPAC Agenda and Organizational Details
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TPAC 2025 will take place on November 10-14 as a hybrid event (Kobe, Japan & online). Please
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refer to the [TPAC website](https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/) for further details.
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The WebAgents Community Group (CG) will meet on Monday, November 10, from 15:30 to 16:45 JST (Kobe local time) / 07:30 to 08:45 CET.
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You can check the time in your local zone here: [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1762756200](https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1762756200).
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See the [calendar entry](https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/cf8f76b2-8756-44f5-9299-fb39cf5ee66a/) for details on the meeting location and connection options.
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## Agenda
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| JST | Agenda |
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| 15:30-15:45 | Welcome to the WebAgents CG |
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| 15:45-16:25 | Hypermedia Multi-Agent Systems |
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| 16:25-16:45 | Open Discussion & Next Steps |
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The meeting will begin with an overview of the WebAgents CG — including its history, goals, and scope.
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We will then continue with a discussion of Hypermedia Multi-Agent Systems, starting from early visions of agents on the Web, a brief history of Web-based agents and multi-agent systems (MAS), and focusing on the CG's current work on defining architectural patterns for Web-based MAS.
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## Meeting Notes
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[Link to Meeting Notes](https://annuel.framapad.org/p/7nnauao3xe-aht6)
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## Registration
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You will need to register for TPAC 2025 in order to attend the WebAgents CG meeting. Please refer to
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the TPAC website for [more information on the registration process](https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/registration.html).
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# WebAgents CG: Regular Meeting (Aug 11, 2025)
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## Agenda
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* Introduction
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* Introduction of new participants (if any)
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* Review minutes from the previous meeting
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* General CG updates
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* Review of Task Forces
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* Open discussion
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* Interoperability report
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## Participants
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* Andrei Ciortea
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* Jérémy Lemée
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* Andrei Olaru
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## Regrets
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* Rem Collier
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**Scribe**: Jérémy Lemée
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**Notes from previous meeting**: [https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/90](https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/90)
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**Invited talk recording**: [https://youtu.be/LpAC-sipBvA](https://youtu.be/LpAC-sipBvA)
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## Meeting Notes
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### General updates
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Agent Toolkits community session @ EUMAS 2025 (online attendance is possible; registration by Aug 20): [https://interactions.ics.unisg.ch/agent-toolkits-2025/](https://interactions.ics.unisg.ch/agent-toolkits-2025/)
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HyperAgents 2025 @ ECAI 2025 — accepted papers now listed: [https://ecai2025.hyperagents.org/](https://ecai2025.hyperagents.org/)
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### Open discussion
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Previous meeting: talk by Amit Chopra that was recorded (see link above).
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Agent Toolitis Web page online with the position statements (see link above). The registration for the Agents Toolkit community session should be made by Aug 20 (see link above).
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Accepted papers for HyperAgents are also online (see link above).
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Hybrid session at the TPAC (registration process + registration fee). Link: [https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/](https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/)
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We had a good discussion with WoT WG on Manageable Affordances. We'll follow through for updates.
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Interoperability TF report in preparation. The report bridges the gap between the research community and the broader W3C community. The report defines the concepts used.
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Discussion concerning the definitions.
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Presentation of conceptual dimensions ([https://deploy-preview-88--w3cwebagentscg.netlify.app/)](https://deploy-preview-88--w3cwebagentscg.netlify.app/)). Andrei asks for feedback on the conceptual dimensions.
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Discussion on open MAS and language agents in closed vs open MAS. Most applications of language/augmented language models are currently in closed systems, even when using protocols like MCP that can be used in open systems.
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Discussion of the 5 stars of Linked Data as a path to move from closed MAS to open MAS.
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# WebAgents CG: Regular Meeting (Aug 29, 2025)
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## Agenda
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* Andrei Ciortea
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* Jérémy Lemée
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* Antoine Zimmermann
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* Rem Collier
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* Andrei Olaru
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* Stephen Cranefield
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* Jean-Paul Calbimonte
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* Soheil Roshankish
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* Julian Padget
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* Simon Mayer
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## Regrets
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* Ege Korkan
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**Scribe**: Rem Collier
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**Notes from previous meeting**: [https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/91](https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/91)
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## Meeting Notes
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AZ: \& AC: Discuss advertisement of CG meetings
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AC: People interested in participating in the Agent Toolkits community session at EUMAS and not already registered should write to eumas2025@upb.ro
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AC: The Last meeting was a small group. The main focus was on the review and consolidation of the Interoperability report.
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[https://w3c-cg.github.io/webagents/TaskForces/Interoperability/Reports/report-interoperability.html#architectural-considerations](https://w3c-cg.github.io/webagents/TaskForces/Interoperability/Reports/report-interoperability.html#architectural-considerations)
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AC: We'll be present at TPAC 2025. Mostly online, Ege will be on-site. The session will take place in the afternoon of November 10th for 1 hour.. To attend online, you must also register (90€).
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AC: TPAC Link: [https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/schedule.html](https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/schedule.html)
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AC: ANP Community Group will have a session as well. It could be a good opportunity to meet.
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AC: HyperAgents workshop update -strong interest - currently scheduled for 1/2 day but full day requested ([https://ecai2025.hyperagents.org/)](https://ecai2025.hyperagents.org/)). We are happy to announce Terry Payne will give the opening keynote. If we get more time, we'll also organize a panel.
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AC: Opportunity for a hybrid WebAgents CG event on the same day or the day before, depending on the final schedule.
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AC: A number of people from the group will be attending in person.
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AC: Noving on to interoperability report
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AC: Sections 3.1 \& 3.2 are nearing final forms. Also opened a draft pull request for architectural considerations to be discussed today ([https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/92)](https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/92))
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AC: Discussing Section 3.1 - history of agents on the web (AgentCitites, DARPA CoABS, ...) and the more recent discussions in the last 5 years (Dagstuhl)
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AC: Long discussion around the architectural considerations section.. Discussion of the design goals (referenced DID design goals as an example of the type of information to be used). For architectural patterns, AC was showing sections of the book "Architecture-Based Design of Multi-Agent Systems" by Danny Weyns ([https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-642-01064-4)](https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-642-01064-4)). Some of the architectural patterns for situated MAS defined there could provide a starting point for the discussion.
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AC: We need to revisit the definitions in the next meeting. also need to discuss the selection criteria for interaction mechanisms.
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# WebAgents CG: Regular Meeting (Sept. 8, 2025)
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* [Jérémy] Review updates for Section 3.4.3: [https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/94](https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/94)
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* [Jérémy] Review updates for Section 3.4.1: [https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/95](https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/95)
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* [Andrei \& Rem] Review updates for Section 3.3: [https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/92](https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/92)
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* Antoine Zimmermann
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* Ege Korkan
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* Terry Payne
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**Notes from previous meeting**: [https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/blob/main/Meetings/RegularMeetings/2025-08-29.md](https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/blob/main/Meetings/RegularMeetings/2025-08-29.md)
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## Meeting Notes
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- Agent Toolkits 2025 last week at EUMAS 2025 in Bucharest: [https://interactions.ics.unisg.ch/agent-toolkits-2025/](https://interactions.ics.unisg.ch/agent-toolkits-2025/)
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- HyperAgents 2025 coming up: [https://ecai2025.hyperagents.org](https://ecai2025.hyperagents.org)
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- we intend to organize a f2f/hybrid meeting of the WebAgents CG
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- Agents and Web Services summary: [https://deploy-preview-95--w3cwebagentscg.netlify.app/#agents-and-web-services](https://deploy-preview-95--w3cwebagentscg.netlify.app/#agents-and-web-services) (Section 3.2.1)
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- Agentic AI summary: [https://deploy-preview-94--w3cwebagentscg.netlify.app/#agentic-ai](https://deploy-preview-94--w3cwebagentscg.netlify.app/#agentic-ai) (Section 3.2.3)
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[JL] Updated the terminology for Tools and Augmented Language Agents (now include Language Agents). I've also updated the protocol table.
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[AC] I updated the definitions (Section 2), not yet pushed. A tool is not necessarily a Web resource in Agentic AI frameworks, so now there is another definition for "Web-based tool".
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[TP] Web based tool is a web resource that is exposed through the web and thus has an interface. Think of it as a subclass of Tools. These can include Web-Services. Can be local or remote.
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# WebAgents CG: Regular Meeting (Sept. 26, 2025)
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* Rem Collier
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**Notes from previous meeting**: [https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/96/commits/748ed7752a28bb5f272041a2e1699a7231e28a5f](https://github.com/w3c-cg/webagents/pull/96/commits/748ed7752a28bb5f272041a2e1699a7231e28a5f)
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### Hybrid CG meeting @ ECAI 2025
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ECAI 2025: [https://ecai2025.org/](https://ecai2025.org/)
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Coordinates:
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* the venue is The Engineering School, University of Bologna: [https://ecai2025.org/venues/](https://ecai2025.org/venues/)
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* we can rent a room with 25 seats for the afternoon of Oct. 25
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* see also the ECAI 2025 schedule at a glance: [https://ecai2025.org/schedule-at-a-glance/](https://ecai2025.org/schedule-at-a-glance/)
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* the CG meeting is co-located with the HyperAgents 2025 workshop on Oct. 26: [https://ecai2025.hyperagents.org/](https://ecai2025.hyperagents.org/)
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* for anyone joining only the CG meeting in person, there will be a reduced ECAI-2025 registration fee of 60 EUR + VAT; this covers the coffee breaks and access to the facilities (not the rent for the room itself)
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Current agenda proposal (afternoon of Oct. 25):
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Potential issue with Internet connection. We may have to rely on 5G. The room must be rented for 130 EUR + VAT. Univ. St-Gallen can cover this.
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A good outcome would be to end up with a good diagram of the architecture. Also, gather inputs for the W3C and its AI activity.
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Possibly have breakout groups to work on different topics.
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OG: Plan to come up with an architecture diagram - are there facilities for discussion (Whiteboard, etc.).
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AC: We have a screen or projector, SM to provide a 360 microphone. - will ask about whiteboards
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AC: Repeated JL question
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JL: Confirmed point about the importance of architectural patterns in the document
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AC: Referencing design goals / architectural patterns as per DID spec ([https://www.w3.org/TR/did-1.0/#design-goals)](https://www.w3.org/TR/did-1.0/#design-goals))
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AC: MCP Server is just an instantiation of this pattern
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