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Understanding for Contrast does not call out Color Blindness #2033
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Originally posted by @GreggVan in #695 (comment)
My PR addresses (1) and (2) above. For (3) is it worth it to add mention that of the 2.8x10^14 RGB pairs, X provide contrast of 4.5:1 or higher? |
Hi Bruce @bruce-usab and @mbgower I also responded BRIEFLY in the pull request with specific change requests... #2034 The Term "Color Blind"Before I get into "technical stuff" I want to mention an agenda item I want to discuss for on the LVTF, namely the term "color blind" ... I am hoping we can start normalizing something that is more accurate, as 99.98% of CVD types are not color blind, they are color limited. But they still see colors. EDIT >>>>: Deutan, protan, tritan are color vision deficient. Achromatopsia, blue cone monochromacy, are color blind, and normally are also co-morbid with low vision and photophobia. AS SUCH, I suggest that line in the PR say something like "sometimes, though incorrectly, referred to as color blindness" or perhaps (my preference but longer) "formerly referred to as 'color blind', though in fact the vast majority of color-limited vision types do differentiate at least some colors" Some Additional Technical Comments:
For people without color deficiencies, hue and saturation have minimal or no effect on legibility so long as luminance contrast is high enough to support rapid reading (Knoblauch et al., 1991).
Scratch this, see the new post below for why. Second Line (19)It reads "Color deficiencies can affect luminance contrast somewhat." Can we change to: Actually nearly all forms of CVD have otherwise normal vision and normal contrast, the notable exception being BCM (which may soon be removed from the CVD classification). CVD do suffer in contrast for the color area they are deficient, such as protan having poor contrast in reds. Deutans (by far the most common) have an essentially normal CS as they have L and S cones that cover the same spectral area as normal vision. Their deficit is in M cone which limits their differentiation of colors that require the M cone or the M+L opponent process. And also: many impairments affect contrast, IMO should be mentioned as noted. CVDI don't want to get too deep into whether or not any CVD types are functionally assisted with 1.4.3 or 1.4.6. In a classical design sense, body text should be about 10:1, regardless of CVD or not. The 4.5:1 ratio allows pure red The Lighter Side of Dark BackgroundsThe main upshot is that adequate luminance contrast is needed by ALL sighted readers, and the 2.x contrast method does not do anything "special" to specifically assist any particular CVD type, as I discuss in the above article with demonstrations. BCMAnd Blue Cone Monochromacy is not assisted in any real way with 1.4.3 or 1.4.6. BCM needs assistive technologies as they are co-morbid with low vision, not to mention photophobia. For visual readability, need at a minimum to modify or adjust their screen. Moreover, a page design that is using blue to help add discrimination for a protan or deutan, will negatively affect what BCM sees, outside of a custom CSS style sheet. I suggest removing any claims of assisting Monochromacy because that is unsupportable. Middle Grey & Colors
I'm on record separately, and with supporting empirical evidence that I made publicly available, that a large proportion of the color pairs that "succeed" under 1.4.3 should instead fail. I would like to suggest that selling a point that is not actually accurate should be avoided. On the subject of "three way":
Unfortunately, the way that manifests in 1.4.3 is neither helpful for readability nor design. Yes, multi-level colors is needed in design, and can be accommodated on an sRGB display. The "three way" using 4.5:1 promotes a middle grey that is too dark, and not actual middle grey, and certainly not middle contrast, on an sRGB display under typical viewing conditions. The high spatial frequency of body text is not well served by 4.5:1. Meanwhile, a large block of color on a The point is that "three way" in a manner that is useful for design is best achieved by looking at the contrast needs for the specific element. MOREOVER "One of the two colors of a color pair must be lighter than #A0A0A0" As a interim measure to help fix some of the more serious problems with poor contrast on some websites that still pass WCAG 2.x. TL;DR
Thank you! Andy Andrew Somers |
REGARDING COLOR CONTRASTI wanted to review some of the literature before commenting further on the line:
While I suggested a minor edit in the previous post, I wanted to comment further as that line seemed a bit askew and out of context relative to some more recent research. Without doing a super-deep dive, but citing Legge et al from Psychophysics of Reading XI:
There are important implications, which I discuss:The visual angle of a typical 16px font is about ⅓rd of a degree, or 1/6th of a degree in x-height. The normal vision group were tested with letter 6 times normal body text, and 36 times normal body text. The low vision group, only the 36 times letters. KEY TAKEAWAYS:
Spatial FrequencyWe know that at higher spatial frequencies, that only luminance contrast is functional. This is because color (hue and chroma) roll off at a much lower frequency than does luminance. The 6° letters are large enough that for normal vision, they are well within the useable CS curve for chroma contrast, thus it is not surprising that normal vision read the 6° letters similarly for both color or luminance contrast. ALSO Normal vision read the 6° letters SLOWER than the 1° letters overall. IMPORTANTLY those with low vision did better with the luminance contrast than color, and this should be noted as a key takeaway. The 1° letters for normal vision are still very much larger than than body text, and near the peak of the luminance CS curve. The fact that there was a shift in scale between luminance and color contrast is expected, due to the different spatial frequency responses. Other studies, not to mention my own empirical studies here in the lab, show that at the high spatial frequencies of COLUMNS OF BODY TEXT i.e. 1/6th of a degree letters, that only luminance contrast is helpful for readability, and in fact some color pairs can cause excessive disability glare. This is expected due to the frequency response of contrast sensitivity of the chromatic and luminance channels in the visual cortex. SIDE NOTES: 6° letters are so large, they are likely recognized only as letter by letter objects, and not via the VFWA (Visual Word Form Area) as such they are read slower than 1° letters by normal vision. The range of letter sizes for best readability is about 0.2° to 2° of visual angle. x-height for a 18px font is just shy of 0.2°, which is in part why I frequently recommended an 18px font for body text. TL;DRUltimately, I want to ask to change the line, as the way it reads it is too general and broadly states something regarding color contrast that, out of context related to glyph size, could be taken and used the wrong way. We need to reinforce that:
Suggested new statement:For people with normal vision and reading very large letters, hue and saturation have minimal effect on legibility. (Knoblauch et al., 1991) However for people with low vision, for people with color limited vision, luminance contrast is the most important for readability (Legge, Psychophysics of Reading XI). This also holds true for normal vision when using small letters such as in body text. (Barten 2003) Thank you Andy |
I don't mind including why "color blind" is a misnomer. But the phrase is in common use, and IMHO it is a defect (i.e., barrier to communication) that Understanding does not mention the term. |
Hi Bruce @bruce-usab
Okay, that makes sense... maybe this is the first step to changing this... if we can at least get the idea out there that the term is incorrect and ableist, that's a step in teh right direction. |
I support limiting the use of "color blind" and when it's used explaining why it's often an inaccurate and problematic term. |
@alastc I've added survey labels on this and the PR itself, as I think this was overlooked. |
I am taking another run at this. It is taking longer than I anticipated... |
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This is not quite correct. When these were created the contest was calculated to account for BOTH low vision and color blindness together in a person. (We did the calculations) Best Gregg Life is short and dictation is faster. Excuse errors.
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Current first sentence under intent:
So how about?
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Bruce:
Hi Bruce, I think this is good, and I like it better here without the parenthetical. Gregg:
Hi Gregg, one of the tasks we examined in the Visual Contrast group was to understand the ideas and motivation behind the original SC from 2007. I discuss some of that in thread 1705. The last ten years of vision science, and particularly impairments, has expanded understanding. With the current understanding:
As I've written about⁴, protans experience the one readability-related luminance contrast deficit in the edge case of red-based colors when paired against black, as protanopia sees the sRGB red primary as about 55% darker. As a result, saturated reds, oranges, and purples are generally best paired with white and not black (other impairments notwithstanding). Readability is about luminance contrast, disregarding color (hue/chroma), as high spatial frequencies, i.e. text, are a function of the luminance channel in the HVS. Hue/Chroma processing is at very low spatial resolution. An expanding understanding here also, is how correcting for one visual impairment may be detrimental to other visual impairments, pointing to personalization as the ideal solution. Thank you for reading. References:
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Hi @bruce-usab Sorry, yes, I agree with your change, my note to GreggV was (intended) to answer what "I thought" he was discussing?. Sorry for confusion... |
The Understanding document for minimum Contrast (SC 1.4.3) does not explicitly mention that the 4.5:1 metric well addresses the needs of people with (the four types of) red-green color blindness and (the two types) of blue-yellow color blindness.
I believe this to be a problem, as the normative requirement lacks obvious face validity. My own personal experience is that I have had to explain this feature dozens of times. I think is would be better for our authoritative reference to include this detail.
I will submit a pull request with a minimal edit.
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