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FT2023-2 Proposal for Amendments #507

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amilan17 opened this issue Oct 30, 2023 · 4 comments · Fixed by #504 or #508
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FT2023-2 Proposal for Amendments #507

amilan17 opened this issue Oct 30, 2023 · 4 comments · Fixed by #504 or #508
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amilan17 commented Oct 30, 2023

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https://wmoomm.sharepoint.com/:b:/s/wmocpdb/EXx8OPTXgstBo5bpm9ty-ZUBZzEpc40i4YhNONtRPqKZHQ?e=0cmRCL

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https://github.com/wmo-im/wmds/milestone/9

@amilan17 amilan17 moved this to In review by Focal Points in FT Approval Procedure Oct 30, 2023
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amilan17 commented Oct 30, 2023

Subject: RE: [WMO - fp-oscar-surface] Fw: FT2023-2 Vol. I.3 -WMDR: Proposal for amendments to WIGOS codes

Please find below some comments on behalf of Switzerland being also the Operator of OSCAR/Surface - for your consideration:

Feedback on behalf of Switzerland:

  • Following program has been forgotten which needs to be integrated into OSCAR/Surface:
    Name: Copernicus
    Notation: C3S
    Description: The Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S) operated by the European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF), on behalf of the European Union

Feedback on behalf of Switzerland in its role as OSCAR/Surface operators:

  • Elimination of observing method «Sunshine duration»: Since this method is being applied at 428 stations in 25 countries all the FPs need to be contacted and we need a migration plan. Therefore this needs to be considered when planning/implementing the change.
  • Variable «Upper (X, Y components, horizontal)”: here we do have the same problem as we do with «Temperature profile», «Atmospheric pressure profile» etc., which have been already eliminated from the code list. Since we can’t search for a specific geometry in OSCAR/Surface we can’t implement this amendment in OSCAR/Surface and therefore also WDQMS won’t be able to use it. (Unfortunately Franziska was on leave when this was discussed in the TT and couldn’t address it there. The question is how to proceed here since “Temparture profile” and “Atmospheric pressure profile” already have been eliminated.

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Estelle

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amilan17 commented Nov 7, 2023

@joergklausen please note the feedback.

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amilan17 commented Nov 9, 2023

As a result of this feedback, Copernicus will be added, Sunshine duration will continue to become invalid and the changes to the wind variables will be reversed pending discussions on how to implement.

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Subject: RE: [WMO - fp-oscar-surface] Fw: FT2023-2 Vol. I.3 -WMDR: Proposal for amendments to WIGOS codes

Please find below some comments on behalf of Switzerland being also the Operator of OSCAR/Surface - for your consideration:

Feedback on behalf of Switzerland:

* Following program has been forgotten which needs to be integrated into OSCAR/Surface:
  Name:  Copernicus
  Notation:  C3S
  Description: The Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S) operated by the European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF), on behalf of the European Union

Feedback on behalf of Switzerland in its role as OSCAR/Surface operators:

* Elimination of observing method  «Sunshine duration»: Since this method is being applied at 428 stations in 25 countries all the FPs need to be contacted and we need a migration plan. Therefore this needs to be considered when planning/implementing the change.

* Variable «Upper (X, Y components, horizontal)”: here we do have the same problem as we do with  «Temperature profile», «Atmospheric pressure profile» etc., which have been already eliminated from the code list. Since we can’t search for a specific geometry in OSCAR/Surface we can’t implement this amendment in OSCAR/Surface and therefore also WDQMS won’t be able to use it. (Unfortunately Franziska was on leave when this was discussed in the TT and couldn’t address it there. The question is how to proceed here since “Temparture profile” and “Atmospheric pressure profile” already have been eliminated.

Best regards Estelle

As discussed with @amilan17 today:

  • C3S is not an observing program, it is a data rescue project and a climate data service. I therefore question if Copernicus / C3S should be included in the program/network tree. I believe, the intent is to allow Copernicus / C3S to mint WSIs for (old) stations. In my mind, they could be listed as an organization in OSCAR/Surface and be given the rights / credentials to do that.

  • As to wind, I agree to postpone this and keep it on hold. We should have a plan / Timeline for this change, though.

@amilan17 amilan17 moved this from End of NFP Review to Approved by President of INFCOM in FT Approval Procedure Nov 22, 2023
@amilan17 amilan17 moved this from Approved by President of INFCOM to Approved by President of WMO in FT Approval Procedure Mar 4, 2024
@amilan17 amilan17 moved this from Approved by President of WMO to Machine-readable representations are published in FT Approval Procedure May 14, 2024
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