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GTFS-rt - are stop_time_update.SKIPPED values propagated downstream? #26

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barbeau opened this issue Nov 18, 2016 · 6 comments
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barbeau commented Nov 18, 2016

See https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/gtfs-realtime/teaI9X1FoGE.

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barbeau commented Sep 12, 2018

An analysis of how many agencies use the SKIPPED value for any StopTimeUpdate would be useful.

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minhhpham commented Oct 8, 2018

We performed an analysis using transit-feed-quality-calculator on 9/29/2018 and found 12 agencies that use SKIPPED value for any StopTimeUpdate:

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Metro Transit Trip Updates Madison, WI, USA
Thunder Bay Transit Trip Updates Thunder Bay, ON, Canada
Nashville MTA Trip Updates Nashville, TN, USA
OVapi Train Trip Updates The Netherlands
OVapi Trip Updates The Netherlands
CT Transit Hartford Trip Updates Connecticut, USA
VIA Trip Updates San Antonio, TX, USA
ETS Trip Updates Edmonton, AB, Canada
YRTViva Trip Updates York, Toronto, ON, Canada
MetroTransit Trip Updates Halifax, NS, Canada
Kingston Transit Trip Updates Kingston, ON, Canada
MBTA Trip Updates Boston, MA, USA

The branch of this analysis is located at https://github.com/CUTR-at-USF/gtfs-realtime-validator/tree/v26-schedule_relationship-SKIPPED

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Snapshots of these feeds are available at https://gist.github.com/minhhpham/65dafc594ff8a1fafca30fe0319eed88

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minhhpham commented Nov 5, 2018

An update when contacting what agencies mean when using skipped:

  • Kingston, Metro Transit, ETS, ThunderBay, OVapi, VIA, and MBTA provide entire stop_sequence in their trip_update *i.e., StopTimeUpdates for all stops in the trip), so their intention is clear (i.e., nothing is propagated).
  • CT Transit: confirmed SKIPPED not propagated
  • MTA: confirmed SKIPPED not propagated

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barbeau commented Feb 7, 2019

I've opened a proposal PR at google/transit#139

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barbeau commented Mar 18, 2019

google/transit#139 was approved - new defined behavior is that SKIPPED values are not propagated, but delays (including those calculated from time values) are propagated over SKIPPED stops.

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