[BUG] Z homing using a Z probe should be allowed when using a custom probe pin

[stantond]

Bug Description

1. When using a motherboard with a dedicated probe bin, Z_MIN_PROBE_USES_Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_PIN must be disabled in configuration.h.

In Marlin/src/inc/Conditionals_LCD.h:
2. Having commented out the above, HAS_CUSTOM_PROBE_PIN is true. This makes sense.
3. However, HOMING_Z_WITH_PROBE (Z_HOME_DIR < 0 &&!HAS_CUSTOM_PROBE_PIN) means that, because we have a custom probe pin, HOMING_Z_WITH_PROBE will be false.
4. I had to change the above to ``HOMING_Z_WITH_PROBE (Z_HOME_DIR < 0)` to enable homing using my BL Touch plugged into the dedicated ports on my SKR 1.4 Turbo.

My Configurations

Marlin.zip

Steps to Reproduce

Using a board with a dedicated Z probe pin, disable Z_MIN_PROBE_USES_Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_PIN (because this is the correct setting for this configuration, and try to home Z.

Expected behavior: [What you expect to happen]

Z Probe works

Actual behavior: [What actually happens]

Z Probe does not deploy during Z homing

Additional Information

• Reproduced by multiple people, see SKR v1.4 Turbo + BLTouch marlin configuration bigtreetech/BIGTREETECH-SKR-V1.3#207

[emaayan]

seems like it was done here #15731

[stantond]

seems like it was done here #15731

Define "done"

[emaayan]

seems like it was done here #15731

Define "done"

as in suggested, the guy tried several combinations,, look at option 7 which seems to be doing the same code you suggested.
this guy went though several combinations, of trying to get his bl-touch AND z-min end stop to work together and failed,. and they closed it because he wouldn't split it into FR and a BUG, (which to me seems like a BUG)
i had a rather long discussion about this on facebook , he said in order to use the custom connections on skr, you need to also use the z min which i tried, and that's how i arrived to that bug.
seems that currently no matter how you look at it, marlin does not support using BL-touch in anything other then z-min
https://www.facebook.com/groups/755135144882809/permalink/996056110790710/

[stantond]

AFAIK, there is no logical reason why Marlin should not allow you to home Z with a probe when using a dedicated probe pin, given it happily lets you home when not using a dedicated probe pin, all because of the one line of code I've highlighted.

That's the only problem in scope for this issue, and it's quite separate (and much simpler) than #15731, which I've also read previously. That one seems to be about using sensorless homing + endstops. I don't agree with closing it for administrative nonsense, it's still a valid issue, just needs renaming, but again, out of scope for this issue.

I think the linked issue might be one step easier to resolve (assuming it's reopened) once this is fixed though?

Also, in fairness, I reckon this code was written when a dedicated Z Probe pin was somewhat rare, so it was an intentional oversight, whereas now it's becoming more common it's becoming a more noticeable problem.

[stantond]

I've re-read #15731, got muddled with another issue - I've commented on it, I think this issue solves part of that one

[InsanityAutomation]

So realistically that check should look at use_zmin_plug to determine if the z min endstop is being used aside from the probe for homing. Any checks ensuring z min plug should also check for the probe to be in use. If you have both in use, home with the sensor only. Seems straightforward enough anyway.

[Releece]

This fix is much needed for everyone with SKR1.4's and other boards with custom probe pins that use Z probes. Fortunately this bug-report is nicely concise instead of #15731.

[RC-Thoughts]

Adding a upvote for this, also on SKR1.4 + BLTouch 3.1.

[albertogg]

Does anyone know what's the reasoning behind the deactivation of the Z homing with a probe when using a custom PIN? I've tracked and this was added in #14338. All boards with dedicated probe pins are affected by this.

[libby2cm]

OK, i'm lost. Is the goal to make zhoming and ABL both work via probe, then just drop the zstop switch 5mm or so below what is realistic so it's effectively only a estop in case probe fails?

[boelle]

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