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Ender 3 v1 with 4.2.7 board #19029

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youssefelhirech opened this issue Aug 13, 2020 · 74 comments
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Ender 3 v1 with 4.2.7 board #19029

youssefelhirech opened this issue Aug 13, 2020 · 74 comments
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A: STM32 C: Boards/Pins Needs: More Data We need more data in order to proceed

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@youssefelhirech
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I received a creality 4.2.7 motherboard instead of a 1.1.5, but I cannot update marlin 2.0.6.
When I use the Ender 3 Pro 1.5 / Ender 3 v2 configs files, the axes do not work.
And it is impossible to make a home, I have the error "Homing failed" ...
I tried several times to build new firmware, but still not working...

Board Creality v4.2.7

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I have no problem with this firmware: https://mega.nz/file/rNdh2ADZ#DTeOwwJ9YI7EPeQVcyvRzh_EUBuP3T8qa7RcXB8yxqc

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GijsvanDulmen commented Aug 13, 2020

I also received the 4.2.7 after ordering a 1.1.5 silent motherboard. The firmware which was on the device when it got delivered had the same "homing failed" error. I did hear a sound when it started but no moving stepper motors. I installed the same firmware as mentioned by @badouuuuuu above and got it to work (showed 0.0.6 version marlin as well).

I'm not flashing it with marlin just yet until I know what configuration I exactly need :-)

@youssefelhirech
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Go to for the issue : #19015

@thinkyhead thinkyhead reopened this Aug 15, 2020
@thinkyhead thinkyhead transferred this issue from MarlinFirmware/Configurations Aug 15, 2020
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ellensp commented Aug 15, 2020

Try this config. its a standard Ender 3 V1 modified for BOARD_CREALITY_V4 and TMC2208_STANDALONE drivers.
Config.zip

Make sure default_envs = STM32F103RET6_creality in platformio.ini

NB config is for bugfix

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Hi,
i got also the new board for my Ender 3 Pro an get the same error. Can you please describe how to bring the firmware and the config on my printer? Is there a tutorial for this?

This would be greate!
Thank you!

@youssefelhirech
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Try this config. its a standard Ender 3 V1 modified for BOARD_CREALITY_V4 and TMC2208_STANDALONE drivers.
Config.zip

Make sure default_envs = STM32F103RET6_creality in platformio.ini

NB config is for bugfix

@ellensp It's the same, still got "Homing failed" & no axes moves. Built with Marlin-bugfix-2.0.x

Hi,
i got also the new board for my Ender 3 Pro an get the same error. Can you please describe how to bring the firmware and the config on my printer? Is there a tutorial for this?

This would be greate!
Thank you!

@Deimos85 Put this files in the the root of your sdcard, and boot on your printer.

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ellensp commented Aug 15, 2020

Can you connect pronterface? do some testing
Output of M119? for eg?
what does M115 say? (confirming you actulay updated the firmware)
Also try some basic movement tests. Ie try and move each axis 10 positive then 10 mm -ve
Do they move at all, do they move in correct direction.?? (you didn't say how you tested moving...)

Can you confirm the main chip number stm32f103 something..

@youssefelhirech
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youssefelhirech commented Aug 15, 2020

I tested with LCD Menu Motion > Moves Axis moves
When i moves axis in LCD Menu, i hear a micro noise and nothing move at all, tried with 10mm, 1mm, 0.1mm.
With pronterface, nothing happens when i moved each one (check video below)

https://youtu.be/AYhkWQw7UpQ

Chip STM32F103

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M119

Reporting endstop status
x_min: TRIGGERED
y_min: open
z_min: open

M115

FIRMWARE_NAME:Marlin bugfix-2.0.x (Aug 15 2020 15:10:38) SOURCE_CODE_URL:https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin PROTOCOL_VERSION:1.0 MACHINE_TYPE:Ender-3 EXTRUDER_COUNT:1 UUID:cede2a2f-41a2-4748-9b12-c55c62f367ff
Cap:SERIAL_XON_XOFF:0
Cap:BINARY_FILE_TRANSFER:0
Cap:EEPROM:1
Cap:VOLUMETRIC:1
Cap:AUTOREPORT_TEMP:1
Cap:PROGRESS:0
Cap:PRINT_JOB:1
Cap:AUTOLEVEL:0
Cap:RUNOUT:0
Cap:Z_PROBE:0
Cap:LEVELING_DATA:0
Cap:BUILD_PERCENT:0
Cap:SOFTWARE_POWER:0
Cap:TOGGLE_LIGHTS:0
Cap:CASE_LIGHT_BRIGHTNESS:0
Cap:EMERGENCY_PARSER:0
Cap:PROMPT_SUPPORT:0
Cap:SDCARD:1
Cap:AUTOREPORT_SD_STATUS:0
Cap:LONG_FILENAME:0
Cap:THERMAL_PROTECTION:1
Cap:MOTION_MODES:0
Cap:ARCS:1
Cap:BABYSTEPPING:1
Cap:CHAMBER_TEMPERATURE:0

Homing Failed error :

echo:busy: processing
echo:busy: processing
echo:busy: processing
echo:busy: processing
echo:busy: processing
echo:busy: processing
echo:busy: processing
echo:busy: processing
echo:busy: processing
Error:Printer halted. kill() called!
[ERROR] Error:Printer halted. kill() called!

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ellensp commented Aug 15, 2020

Well your definitely installing firmware without issues.
Same MPU as expected.

I was just watching a old 3DMN video of Ender 3 v2 and the motherboard was V4.2.2
https://youtu.be/QFYegSEeGcE?t=1041

I'm wondering if they have change the pins on us

With the working firmware if you do a M43 does it provide an output (I would be very surprised if it did as that would make things easy!)

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youssefelhirech commented Aug 15, 2020

@ellensp echo:Unknown command: "M43"
What can I do if the pins have been changed?
I am curious to learn or want to help, if you know any technical tips to fix board issues

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ellensp commented Aug 15, 2020

Before you start

I would look under the board as pins may be labeled on the underside.

Someone need to make a new pin mapping.
setup a spreadsheet with 64 rows. these are all the pins. you have
You can grab this pins names from table 5 column LQFP64 in https://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/stm32f103re.pdf
We can ignore any pins that aren't IO pins.
I would add a second column that is the pin fuction on a Crealty 4 from https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin/blob/bugfix-2.0.x/Marlin/src/pins/stm32f1/pins_CREALITY_V4.h
and the 3rd would be this board.

we know the screen works and and the encoder. so we can fill in those pins from the Crealty 4 column to your board column.
we know that serial 1 works as you using it to talk to pronterface so thats the same as Crealty 4

So check other basic functionality
Does the board show room-ish temperature on lcd? if so then those thermistor pins as same as Crealty 4

Since you can upload and talk to the board that is a plus

You can enable pins_debugging and with that you can use gcode M43 T
This lets you set a pin a toggling and watch for the pin to change on a meter or scope.

Just is be careful doing this, if you turn on a hot end, you may not notice till you burn yourself.

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jamespowell3 commented Aug 16, 2020

I'm having the same issue. Ender 3 pro with 4.2.7 board. I did notice the INVERT_X_DIR, INVERT_Y_DIR, INVERT_Z_DIR, INVERT_E0_DIR in the ender 3 pro 1.5 config are opposite from the standard ender 3 prod config. I tried inverting them but still no motor movement.

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It'd be nice if Creality actually followed the GPL and released their 32-bit firmware instead of posting pre-compiled bins on their website.

I'm surprised they are still doing this despite all the backlash they received when they pulled this a while ago.

@youssefelhirech
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youssefelhirech commented Aug 16, 2020

@thisiskeithb Check here : https://www.creality.com/download/32
They're some new source code for v2 & Bin from 14 august

@ellensp I understand what you say, thank you, but I think I am missing some basic for mapping, so I leave that for an expert

I used the "new" Ender-3 32bit_Marlin2.0.1 - V1.0.1-TMC2208_Latest Firmware_0814.rar_
from the creality.com and still not working, we got the same Home Failed Printer Halted.....

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@badouuuuuu none of those files seem to have source code in them for the 32-bit board. If you found it somewhere please provide a direct link.

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ellensp commented Aug 17, 2020

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ellensp commented Aug 17, 2020

If someone with this board could make a high res scan of both sides of this board (as high res as you can do) that might be useful. Flat bed scanners are often good for this.

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youssefelhirech commented Aug 17, 2020

@sjasonsmith it's only source code from v2 32 bits, so the 4.2.2, my bad

@ellensp https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YluaMIV9-2FMR61OT8Ohzdmpn-4rUckn?usp=sharing
Someone kindly took these pictures, I don't know if the quality is enough ? A bit blurry, but it didn't seem to work with the flat scanner

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chasetb commented Aug 17, 2020

Just found this thread.
@ellensp Here are some photos of the board I received last week (though it's labeled as the Ender 3 Pro): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17jgYn8ZcDWk9XEm4wCCCQPzByd1ytRZd?usp=sharing

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ellensp commented Aug 19, 2020

I thought it might be just the stepper enable pin (since it is shared on all axis) but images and comparing disassembly from current marlin and the bin that works...seems to imply they are the same pins.. (cant be 100% sure though not all traces are visible and its hard going trough the assembly code... (only 76,000 lines))

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Flawioo commented Aug 19, 2020

⁹Just for you know, Creality have posted some instructions that I've executed but no success here: https://www.creality.com/blog-detail/ender-3-motherboard-change-notification. I have sent a email to cs@creality.com to get some info.

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ellensp commented Aug 20, 2020

Just been disassembling the code around X-Step and X-Dir pins.
They seem to be swapped from the 4.2.2
Can someone test this for me? make sure i'm not chasing ghosts?
Use this Config
Ender 3 V1 modified for BOARD_CREALITY_V4 and TMC2208_STANDALONE drivers.zip
But edit Marlin/src/pins/stm32f1/pins_CREALITY_V4.h
Change
#define X_STEP_PIN PB9
#define X_DIR_PIN PC2

Y step and dir also seem swapped. so change
#define Y_STEP_PIN PB7
#define Y_DIR_PIN PB8

Compile and upload. Then try some simple X and Y moves.

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chasetb commented Aug 20, 2020

FWIW, I complained to Creality and asked for a backup copy of the firmware for this board. What they sent indicates that the stepper drivers are TMC2225. This is in contrast to the TMC2208 stepper drivers listed in their latest firmware on creality.com.

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ellensp commented Aug 22, 2020

@mcunanan19 the Z_PROBE_PIN PB1 on the 5 pin bl_touch plug is the default.

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Thank you for the response.

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ellensp commented Aug 26, 2020

@mcunanan19 thats PB11 and isn't in V4 or V427 pins file ... Where is this "old pin" you used. (Diagram please)

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mcunanan19 commented Aug 26, 2020 via email

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What pin did you use on the board? I fixed mine by using the 3 pin in the default BL_T the G,V, IN. But I did not use the G, OUT pin. I use the old PIN in where the previous bltouch is connected. Then in the firmware, I still indicate SERVO0_PIN 27. It worked for me.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:52 AM link1107 @.***> wrote: I've also bought this board and now cant make bltouch 3.1 to work. Tried all possible fixes that i've found across the internet, but still no luck. Selftest - ok, red light - ok, but when autohoming by z axis - just goes down with the sensor being retracted... — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#19029 (comment)>, or unsubscribe https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AK5BRMIBR4YNLUQC7SNVKZDSCRTEPANCNFSM4QACHLQA .

I've already fixed the problem with the method you've described :)
Thanks for the reply.

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Flawioo commented Aug 26, 2020

Marlin Firmware to get Creality v4.2.7 boards working perfectly

Steps to help anybody that needs to get this board working ok

Source of this how to: https://github.com/Flawioo/Creality-Ender-3-board-v4.2.7/blob/master/README.md
Visual help: https://youtu.be/OJmE9xwPk1U

Download bugfix from git hub https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin/archive/bugfix-2.0.x.zip

Download Configuration examples: https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Configurations/archive/bugfix-2.0.x.zip

In platformio.ini
Change: default_envs = mega2560
To: default_envs = STM32F103RET6_creality

In Configuration.h apply the following settings:

#define MOTHERBOARD BOARD_CREALITY_V427

#define CUSTOM_MACHINE_NAME "Ender-3 32bits" // Or any name you'd like to

#define Z_MIN_PROBE_USES_Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_PIN // Enable BLTouch probe pins (white and black wires) to be connected to Z-
// --- or ---
#define Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN PB1 // Creality V4.2.7 BLTouch OUT (written on the board)

#define BLTOUCH

#define NOZZLE_TO_PROBE_OFFSET { -40, -10, 0 } // Using this thingfile as mount, measure correctly using your mounted BLTouch https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3003725

#define PROBING_MARGIN 15 // If you'd want stay away from the edges (higher values goes to center of the bed)

//#define MIN_SOFTWARE_ENDSTOP_Z // To allow to set Z offset values in negative

#define AUTO_BED_LEVELING_BILINEAR

#define LCD_BED_LEVELING

#define Z_SAFE_HOMING

// If you have a runout sensor
#define FILAMENT_RUNOUT_SENSOR

#define NOZZLE_PARK_FEATURE // To change filament

#define NOZZLE_PARK_POINT { (X_MAX_POS - 10), (Y_MIN_POS + 10), 20 } // To change the position of the hotend in front on the right of the bed

In Configuration_adv.h enable the following:

#define BLTOUCH_DELAY 500

#define ADVANCED_PAUSE_FEATURE

#define PARK_HEAD_ON_PAUSE // Park the nozzle during pause and filament change.

#define PINS_DEBUGGING // Only if you'd like to discover new features, if you don't, leave it alone

Compile
In Auto Build Marlin at Visual Studio, click on Build button and wait for the green line
1 succeeded in 00:00:26.355

Where is the firmware I've compiled?
In my case: C:\creality-v4.2.7-marlin-2.0.6-bugfix\Marlin-bugfix-2.0.x.pio\build\STM32F103RET6_creality
In your case: somedir.pio\build\STM32F103RET6_creality

BLTouch pinout on board (5 pins named as BL_T) and respective connections:

Board-----BLTouch wires
G---------Green----Servo
V---------Red------Servo
IN--------Yellow---Servo
G---------White----Probe (if it doesn't work, try to swap with Black)
OUT-------Black----Probe (if you are using Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN 17, if you don't, please just uncomment Z_MIN_PROBE_USES_Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_PIN as above)

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Runout Sensor plug:

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@thinkyhead
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Sorry about that. The Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN for the V4 board is now fixed.

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Flawioo commented Aug 27, 2020

Sorry about that. The Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN for the V4 board is now fixed.

Thanks!

@Emile58-F
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Bonjour. Excusez moi, c'est bien la bonne connexion, pour installé un bl touch. Parce que ici j'ai acheté sur le site Amazon.fr mais les branchements avec 5 broches, c'est la même carte mère creality v4.2.7 vous pouvez m'aider s'il vous plaît...
Bonne soirée
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Flawioo commented Aug 28, 2020

Bonjour. Excusez moi, c'est bien la bonne connexion, pour installé un bl touch. Parce que ici j'ai acheté sur le site Amazon.fr mais les branchements avec 5 broches, c'est la même carte mère creality v4.2.7 vous pouvez m'aider s'il vous plaît...
Bonne soirée
Emile58-F

Hi please could you translate to english first to all of us? We'll really appreciate.

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mweirath commented Aug 29, 2020

@Flawioo I wanted to thank you for your documentation, although I am still having an issue after following the instructions.

I think my problems are with the following lines:

#define Z_MIN_PROBE_USES_Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_PIN // Enable BLTouch probe pins (white and black wires) to be connected to Z-
// --- or ---
#define Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN PB1 // Creality V4.2.7 BLTouch OUT (written on the board)

I have tried both lines, although I initially used your other documentation for the second line that I believe had a value of 17. I haven't gone back and tried the other version, although it isn't clear which line I need to use. Right now I am trying the first line, as I am using the 5 pin connection on the board. My current issue is that when autohoming the printer won't lower on the Z axis. In fact, now I can't even get the Z axis to go down, only up.

My goal is to use the 5 pin connector and disable the Z Stop.

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@Flawioo thank you very much for your efforts and your documention. I am using your compiled firmware https://github.com/Flawioo/Creality-Ender-3-board-v4.2.7/blob/master/firmware-20200825-161146-BLT-and_Runnout-filament.bin and it works perfectly.

The last little issue is the loose connection between the 3-pole BL-touch connector and the 5-pin connector on the board, obviously both connectors don't fit very well together. What is name of this type of connector housing I need to buy to make it fit better?
connector_housing

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Flawioo commented Aug 29, 2020

@Flawioo thank you very much for your efforts and your documention. I am using your compiled firmware https://github.com/Flawioo/Creality-Ender-3-board-v4.2.7/blob/master/firmware-20200825-161146-BLT-and_Runnout-filament.bin and it works perfectly.

The last little issue is the loose connection between the 3-pole BL-touch connector and the 5-pin connector on the board, obviously both connectors don't fit very well together. What is name of this type of connector housing I need to buy to make it fit better?
connector_housing

Hi @Hotel-Delta
I think the name is "jst connector female 5 pin"
Until the delivery of the new connector, try to use hot glue, maybe can help too.

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Flawioo commented Aug 29, 2020

@Flawioo I wanted to thank you for your documentation, although I am still having an issue after following the instructions.

I think my problems are with the following lines:

#define Z_MIN_PROBE_USES_Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_PIN // Enable BLTouch probe pins (white and black wires) to be connected to Z-
// --- or ---
#define Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN PB1 // Creality V4.2.7 BLTouch OUT (written on the board)

I have tried both lines, although I initially used your other documentation for the second line that I believe had a value of 17. I haven't gone back and tried the other version, although it isn't clear which line I need to use. Right now I am trying the first line, as I am using the 5 pin connection on the board. My current issue is that when autohoming the printer won't lower on the Z axis. In fact, now I can't even get the Z axis to go down, only up.

My goal is to use the 5 pin connector and disable the Z Stop.

Hi @mweirath, to achieve your goal:

The previous "how to" was updated by our friends that have done a great work, but let's go to your problem.

The two lines below do exactly the same thing, pin PB1=17. But don't worry because it ins't needed anymore (nowadays).

#define Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN PB1
// and
#define Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN 17

Use the 5 pins BL_T and use the common Z-endstop switch (both at the same time)
or
enable this line

#define Z_MIN_PROBE_USES_Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_PIN

and be happy using probe pins of BLTouch connected on Z-

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mweirath commented Aug 29, 2020

@Flawioo I tried the updates. Right now I have both lines of code enabled and my Z Axis end stop is unplugged. Only the BLTouch is plugged in using the 5 Pin Connector.

#define Z_MIN_PROBE_USES_Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_PIN

#define Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN PB1 // Pin 32 is the RAMPS default

I am still having a problem that my ender 3 will no longer descend. If I increase the X-axis it will go up, but it will not go down.

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Flawioo commented Aug 29, 2020

@Flawioo I tried the updates. Right now I have both lines of code enabled and my Z Axis end stop is unplugged. Only the BLTouch is plugged in using the 5 Pin Connector.

#define Z_MIN_PROBE_USES_Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_PIN

#define Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN PB1 // Pin 32 is the RAMPS default

I am still having a problem that my ender 3 will no longer descend. If I increase the X-axis it will go up, but it will not go down.

Ok, try this simple firmware pre compiled. It doesn't have BLTouch or Runnout filament sensor enabled but you can test if the problem is the firmware or some kind of connection.
https://github.com/Flawioo/Creality-Ender-3-board-v4.2.7/blob/master/firmware-20200829-011646-Simplest.bin

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@Flawioo I tried with the file you shared and I am able to get the Z-Axis to work, although I can't go below 0 (currently the Ender is sitting around +80, which it thinks is 0).

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I found another recommendation that I am trying. It seems to have addressed the known issues, but I still need to validate all the settings are correct and I can correctly print.

//#define Z_MIN_PROBE_USES_Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_PIN

// Force the use of the probe for Z-axis homing
#define USE_PROBE_FOR_Z_HOMING

//#define Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN PB1 // Pin 32 is the RAMPS default
#define Z_MIN_PROBE_PIN Z_PROBE_PIN // Pin 32 is the RAMPS default

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Hello.
yes that's it with the color codes, not to make mistakes, I came here to find some help, as I see I have to move the colors in the right order, as it appears on the photo. Because here I received the BL-TOUCH I am attaching the two photos.
IMG_20200829_080935
IMG_20200829_080842
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IMG_20200829_080935_LI (2)

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Flawioo commented Aug 29, 2020

@Flawioo I tried with the file you shared and I am able to get the Z-Axis to work, although I can't go below 0 (currently the Ender is sitting around +80, which it thinks is 0).

Hi, try to check the line below, you have to comment adding double slash in front of the parameters and so than it will allow you to go below 0 (negative values).

//#define MIN_SOFTWARE_ENDSTOP_Z // To allow to set Z offset values in negative

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Flawioo commented Aug 29, 2020

Hello.
yes that's it with the color codes, not to make mistakes, I came here to find some help, as I see I have to move the colors in the right order, as it appears on the photo. Because here I received the BL-TOUCH I am attaching the two photos.
IMG_20200829_080935
IMG_20200829_080842
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IMG_20200829_080935_LI (2)

Hi! Usually black and white colors are probe wires and the remaining are servo wires.
Could you get some new pictures from rear side of BLTouch, there are some indication about what means the wires and colors.
Exemple:
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Hi to all, jus in case, I have the same problem with the board 4.2.2. But only with the X axis. apparently when send a G28 the printer do not detect the X endstop. (if i use the auto home funtion from the LCD this works). After a Night of testing I found that if keep the SD card inserted in the printer the error solves, so this X endstop no detection only happen when no sd card is in the printer.

In the other hand I note that the Fan Board (K-Fan2 labeled in board)apparently do not start. Someone knows if this fan is drived by any PIN definition ?

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Emile58-F commented Aug 29, 2020 via email

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Thanks for reply, (Emile, I cant see your photos).

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I just ordered this board yesterday. Does linear advance work with it or not?

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Emile58-F commented Aug 30, 2020

Hello.

Yes, excuse me, it doesn't work with the smartphone. Here are the photos you asked me, you will see it is not the same as yours.

Good weekend
Emile58-F

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20200829_233331
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