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fibrinogen treats heart disorder - not #477

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gglusman opened this issue Aug 12, 2023 · 7 comments
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fibrinogen treats heart disorder - not #477

gglusman opened this issue Aug 12, 2023 · 7 comments
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biolink causes/aggravation of symptoms not treats a case of opposite of what... where the reasoning leads to the cause or aggravation of symptoms opposite of what I asked for test asset to designate an issue that has been added to the acceptance testing asset sheet

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What drugs may treat heart disorder, CI August 12, 4th result with score 100:
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Zero publications, one source -> just a link to ChEMBL.

Plenty of literature about fibrinogen being a risk factor for heart disease, e.g., https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9717059/, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4692188/, https://cardiab.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12933-021-01335-1, https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/23/1/193, and much more.

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gglusman commented Aug 14, 2023

Seems to come from chembl via spoke:
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suihuang-ISB commented Aug 14, 2023

The imPROVING result "fibrinogen treats Cardiovascular Disease" comes from the use of fibrinogen in cardiac surgery instead of fresh-frozen plasma (Fibrinogen helps in homeostasis but also promotes clotting and hence is a risk factor for chronic heart disease, as @gglusman indicated). This "treatment" is part of an effort to replace plasma transfusion in post-cardiac surgery care with one of its key components ... to prevent bleeding ... of which one is fibrinogen to prevent.
see: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26893405/

There was a trial on whether fibrinogen uis useful in this setting to replace fresh plasma

The imPROVING agent had pulled tis out from SPOKEs edges that capture clinical trials.

This is one more example of the problematic use of the verb/predicate "treats" - which is so ambiguous that it is actually not used in medicine. More precisely: Fibrinogen is USED as part of the management of patients in cardiac surgery.

The fact that in this case the treat edge becomes exactly the "opposite" (high fibrinogen is a risk factor for heart disease) is ore of an unfortunate coincidence.

The longer term solution is to replace the "treats" edge with "indicated for" and then use more precise extraction of the edges that really support "indication"

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sandrine-m commented Aug 15, 2023

Could it be linked to #444 : it is not a treats but a cause and the current data supporting evidence is not enough to know the direction?

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@sandrine-m Based on Sui's explanation I see this as a different issue. As Sui put it, the problematic use of the verb/predicate "treats" - which is so ambiguous.

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I believe this issue is linked with #123
@gglusman my understanding was that every biolink predicate was precisely defined and predicates mapping should be done based on biolink definition of treats. This error is due to the interpretation of the ChEMBL indication table that should not be a biolink:treats. Indeed, the ChEMBL drug indications table is a merging of multiple ressources (a large number from clinical trials.gov). The ChEMBL indication comes from "chemical intervention" from clinical Trials.gov (to see a clear example of this semantic shift, please have a look at the use case of Ferumoxytol presented to the Predicate meeting. This use case was discussed with some of the clinical KP folks. There has been several discussions going on regarding this issue in the Predicates WG and the current proposal can be find here.

@sandrine-muller-research sandrine-muller-research added causes/aggravation of symptoms not treats a case of opposite of what... where the reasoning leads to the cause or aggravation of symptoms test asset to designate an issue that has been added to the acceptance testing asset sheet labels Oct 23, 2023
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@sierra-moxon sierra-moxon added needs review this ticket needs a broad group of people to review and assign next steps because it crosses teams group2 labels Jan 23, 2024
@cbizon cbizon added deferred/will not fix this release and removed needs review this ticket needs a broad group of people to review and assign next steps because it crosses teams labels Jan 23, 2024
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cbizon commented Jan 23, 2024

Re-review when treats refactor in place.

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@gglusman - this is fixed with CTKP, right? Can I close it?

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