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Please add energy-related task definitions in the OEO #1891
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I would prefer to change the label from "[A] new term" to "enhancement" but do not have access to that. |
Hi @tpelser I looked at the example from BAO. There, the tasks are classified as subclasses of some kind of method. A method would correspond to oeo's methodology. Is this what you intend? |
Hi @stap-m, as discussed, here is the full list of tasks:
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In the figure, I visualized the (from IAO imported) structure that we use in OEO to relate methodologies to processes. I added the definitions (green) for explanation, and applied the structure to the first task of your list (blue). The specification of the tasks raises (again) the question whether this is really within the scope of OEO. I put it on the next meeting's agenda. |
@tpelser to proceed with the mapping of your tasks to the concept proposed, could you please draft definitions for the first subset of tasks, e.g. 1.-1.6? Ideally condensed to 1-2 sentences. We may have to adjust them to the OEO terminology, and in the following we can use them as templates for the other subsets. EDIT: As shown in the figure above, "1. Determine the wind characteristics of the region" will probably become |
On relations: So I's propose adding the new relations: I tried to make definitions similar to those in existing relations. Edit: These are removed now. |
According to the scheme I would add all the subtask of a task as a subclasses of Since I have no information in the nature of these tasks, I would use preliminary definitions like: Edit: Definition outdated, see below. |
According to the scheme I would add tasks headline as a subclasses of Edit: Definition outdated, see below, Removed axiom. |
According to the scheme I would add a method with the task's headline as a subclasses of
This is the one I feel most unsure about. Edit: Definition outdated, see below, removed axiom. Added axiom |
According to the scheme I would add And it would be a subclass of: This may be problematic as we would have to add axioms for all the other tasks like this as axioms here. So maybe this should get a set of subclasses instead? Edit: Definition outdated, see below, removed axiom. This class is now removed |
According to the scheme I would add Edit: Definition outdated, see below Added axiom |
Lastly I would add As a subclass of this All of these proposed changes can be seen in the draft pull request #1940 Edit: Definition outdated, see below, removed axiom These classed are now removed |
That's ok for now. We use Aristotelian definitions, i.e. for your example it would be: Data aquisition ... is an action specification that describes.... This is best practise and important for the readability of the ontology and review process. |
This label is too generic, since constraints could be applied in any context. |
@stap-m If we wanted to stay as close to this as possible I would go with |
Updated pending questions:
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I would update this to:
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An answer to this could be:
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This label is even longer than the old one though and the goal was to make it more compact. Thank you for the updated definition for wind variability. I updated it. |
For the first one, I agree it would make sense to generalize and we could update to: For the next ones I am not sure if generalizing makes sense because as I understand it this is describing a workflow that is specific to wind resource assessments? Therefore these cost calculations are always to do with wind. Or maybe I do not understand properly |
Okay, I did not see that the goal was to shorten this, I thought it was "too generic"? I am not quite sure how we could possibly shorten it more than the original which was We could shorten the entire description to something like:
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@tpelser |
I still think, the "assessment of potential" is a relevant part in this label that we should not drop, despite the length. |
In that case I think I don't think the definition needs to be shortened. I'd curently favor: |
@stap-m |
Actually, yes, since this is part of the feasible potential , it would be important to specify here that these are "non-technical" constraints: The original was apply additional social/market constraints. This could also be: |
Updated pending questions:
To Do:
In progress
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…k-definition-in-seperate-module Add task definition in separate module #1891
@stap-m
I added that to the To Do list but I am not sure what you are referring to. Do you possibly mean the change from:
If so I don't think we agreed on one of them yet and that might be a thing wort doing. |
@tpelser |
From the dev meeting:
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We (researchers from Jülich Systems Analysis) would like to use energy-related task definitions to describe research data (e.g. in knowledge graphs such as the ORKG or the OEKG), and to allow task/problem-oriented search and discovery of research data.
What are "task definitions":
These refer to tasks within a workflow for analysing aspects of energy systems.
As an example, the spreedsheet "workflow" in this Excel file contains an overview of the workflow tasks for literature looking at wind power potentials: https://data.fz-juelich.de/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.26165/JUELICH-DATA/FXM9CB
These tasks include:
Tasks
1 Determine wind speed characteristics of the region
Definition: The tasks related to understanding the meteorological conditions of the study region and the theoretical wind potential.
1.1 Select appropriate wind data
1.2 Download & process wind data
1.3 *Extrapolate wind speed vertically to hub height
1.4 *Account for air density change
1.5 *Determine wind speed frequency distribution
1.6 Determine theoretical potential / WPD
2 Determine available area for wind farm development
Definition: The tasks related to estimating the areas which are available for development of wind parks, and the areas which are ineligible.
2.1 Download and process topographical data
2.2 …
3 Determine technical wind potential of the available land area
3.1 …
4 Determine economic potential of the available region
4.1 …
5 Determine feasible potential
5.1 …
() -> optional task
Our aims
Our aim is to first have task definitions which are agreed upon in the domain (for referencing research data to it). Second step would be to introduce relationships between tasks (which can be used for knowledge transfer and data exploration/navigation). A relationship could be “sub/super task”. A third step could be the numbering of tasks within processes/(software)workflows to transparently describe, what data processing steps were performed in a study.
As an example of how a task could look like in an ontology, the BioAssay Ontology and the task "mitochondrial membrane potential assessment" can be used: https://terminology.tib.eu/ts/ontologies/bao/terms?iri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bioassayontology.org%2Fbao%23BAO_0000423&obsoletes=false
This task includes a definition, an IRI and a task hierarchy with “mitrochondrial…” being a SubClass Of “viability measurement method”.
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