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Add new classes to describe different voltage levels of the energy grid #1960
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These should become subclasses of |
Comment on #1828 (comment) (@koubaa-hmc) and #1828 (comment) (@madbkr): Comment on #1828 (comment) (@stap-m)
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Thanks for the clarification of the |
Adding this here from issue #1975, since it's also relevant to this issue: Here's some information regarding Germany/US voltage level differences. Germany (source: https://www.smard.de/page/en/wiki-article/5884/214026)
USA (source: https://www.generatorsource.com/Articles/Generator-Info/High-Medium-and-Low-Voltage-Differences.aspx and my personal experience working as a power engineer for US utility companies)
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The 400 V low voltage are for all three phases (Drehstrom) between any two conductors; 230 V is from any conductor out of the three to ground wire |
The The And I am not sure how to define the The related terms That are quite a lot of new terms and needed definitions. 👀 |
Some voltages will be ranges, and some will be single values. Would it make sense to define classes Voltage levels might work as properties of In general, all types of equipment can be found operating at all voltage levels. But if we're talking about one specific piece of equipment in particular:
How much detail do we think we need for this ontology regarding the physical structure of a power grid? I can keep giving this some thought and see if I can come up with a better way to define it. |
I would say that voltage level is the class, the levels explicitely named so far are instances of it; German voltage levels are different instances from US voltage levels. An instance of a distribution system has 1 to n voltage levels; dto. an instance of transmission system. DS and TS in US are different instances from German DS and TS respectively. As for the question of detail - it depends on how the domain OEO describes is defined; I think the Common INformation Model (CIM) is a good example and can guide an ontologization of the technical stuff of power grids (and other stuff, too); Link e.g.: https://zepben.github.io/evolve/docs/cim/cim100; I have some Enterprise-Architect models from a few years ago. If we take a look at the class VoltageLevel in CIM we can find that in general the values are ranges, described by their limiting voltages (which does not exclude single valued VLs). |
We want to implement the I think we should start at the top concepts: OEO:electricity grid An electricity grid is a supply grid that transports and distributes electrical energy / electricity. (DE: Stromnetz) NEW: NEW: electricity grid has part some electricity grid component: An electricity grid component is a grid component that is part of an electricity grid.
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So, the electricity grid can only be the TS and DS part of the power system- as far as it is specified now in this discussion. And what about "grid level"? That is a new term (regarding this discussion) - it is translated to "Spannungsebene", but that is (should be?) the voltage level. Is there a differnece? What does the geographic coverage (?) has to do with it? An electric system is rarely characterized in terms of any geography (as long as it is not relevant where some part of it is located because someone has to go out to fix something or the like). If it comes to describing the technical power system/grid or whatever it may be called, I think it is mainly a matter of part-whole and nothing else. When I speak of a grid component, then it is just the collection of the parts of the grid. It is a relation between the grid and the entities that are parts of it. It is the property, predicate, relation, however it is called, of a grid, we can call it grid components, and the real things that are members of the collection are devices, equipment that are components of the grid. |
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As said above, the "grid components" should be classified as This holds for all grid components. |
A question: is the |
As far as I understand "Netzebenen", they are mainly labels for certain types of grids (with a certain voltage level, in a certain region (DE, AT, CH)), but not actually "part" of the grid. For modelling of the physical stuff they don't play a role, right? Maybe we can add them after clarifying the rest. |
On a slightly different topic, this definition is a bit misleading - a transformer often connects two different electrical circuits, but it doesn't necessarily have to. For a distribution-level transformer that steps down from 12kV/4kV/etc. to 240V, the wires and equipment on either side of that transformer would be considered a single circuit by the system operator. I think something like "A transformer is an electricity grid component that passively transfers electrical energy from one voltage level to another" would be a bit more accurate. |
I would agree that I don't think geographic coverage has much to do with the definitions of grid levels (Netzebenen). The distinction between transmission and distribution grid levels impacts the responsible parties for maintaining and operating the system (TSO & ISO & RTO for transmission, DSO for distribution), the regulatory environment for the system, and the financial market structure for the system. I suppose geography becomes relevant when you're talking about transmission interconnections between different companies/states/countries, since that impacts regulatory oversight and electricity markets. But from a standpoint of just the physical stuff that makes up the grid (transformers, cables, switches, etc), the names transmission and distribution don't really matter - the operating voltage level (Spannungsebene) is more relevant than the grid level (Netzebene) its assigned to. |
Regarding transformers:
And we canot state that a transformer transfers energy from one "voltage level" to another, since these are not (!) voltages, they are related to ranges of voltage values. |
Description of the issue
From #1828 and oeo-dev 89
It should be possible to differentiate the different voltage levels:
And the type of network system:
Connecting terms would be:
Ideas of solution
Part of #1828
Workflow checklist
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