Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022

[felixfontein]

This tracks the Community Working Group meetings for Ansible. Continues the 2020/2021 agenda in #539.

• Meeting logs
• Invite (import by URL): ics file
• Location:
  • Matrix Room: #community:ansible.com
  • IRC Channel: #ansible-community

[felixfontein]

2022-01-05

Agenda #539 18:00:05)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda #539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Happy New Year 2022 :)
• We are excited to announce that briantist has joined the Ansible Steering Committee. Brian has been a very active community member for several years. He has contributed to the project as a developer, reviewer, collection maintainer, documentation contributor, he helped other contributors and users on IRC / Matrix and GitHub as well as the steering committee to make right decisions.
• thanks to briantist, PRs in the community.docker repo now have a docs build and docs diff
• We had 24 issues of The Bullhorn, the Ansible Community newsletter, last year. Subscribe via https://us19.campaign-archive.com/home/?u=56d874e027110e35dea0e03c1&id=d6635f5420

Active voting topics

• https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aactive-vote will show all active votes
• opinions wanted on semantic markup proposal - [Associated vote ended on 2023-03-09] Include semantic markup in plugin DOCUMENTATION strings ansible-community/community-topics#53

distutils LooseVersion etc. replacement

• Original PR: Prepare for distutils.version being removed in Python 3.12 ansible-collections/community.general#3936
• Unintended consequences (bug report): Cannot use docker_compose in 2.1.0 ansible-collections/community.docker#267
• Changelog PR: Report incompatibility with Ansible <2.9.20 and ansible-base <2.10.8 ansible-collections/community.general#3979

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-05/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-05-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-05/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-05-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-05/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-05-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-01-12

Agenda #539 18:00:09)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda #539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• don't forget to vote on the open votes: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aactive-vote
• Ansible 5.2.0 will be released sometime shortly after the meeting
• deadline for Bullhorn 42 content is tomorrow, as we're testing how feasible it is to have a weekly release cadence. Please share your news with newsbot in ansible-social channel/room by 20:00 UTC on 2022-01-13!
• https://github.com/ansible-community/github-docs-build contains some GHA actions and shared workflows for collection docs builds
• There will be many talks about Ansible at the upcoming devconf and FOSDEM conferences, find them via https://devconfcz2022.sched.com/?searchstring=ansible and https://fosdem.org/2022/search/?q=ansible
• The parameter and return value tables on docs.ansible.com's devel docs are now responsive
• Please suggest possible names for the Changes Impacting Contributors repository in the topic [Vote ended on 2022-01-11] Repository instead of Changes impacting collection contributors & maintainers Issue ansible-community/community-topics#51. Deadline is Sunday, 16 Jan 2022.

How to proceed with "I'd like to contribute ansible-trace under ansible-collections" (felixfontein, 18:22:56)

• I'd like to contribute ansible-trace under ansible-collections ansible-community/community-topics#52

Voting result on: Repository instead of Changes impacting collection contributors & maintainers Issue (felixfontein, 18:53:12)

• [Vote ended on 2022-01-11] Repository instead of Changes impacting collection contributors & maintainers Issue ansible-community/community-topics#51 (comment)

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-12-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-12-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-12-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-01-19

Agenda #539 18:00:14)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda #539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• comments welcome on how to craft good changelog fragments - FEEDBACK WANTED: Crafting better changelog fragments ansible-community/community-topics#64 (comment)

Establishing the roadmap for Ansible 6.0.0

• Discussion: [Vote ended on 2022-01-26] Establishing the roadmap for Ansible 6.0.0 ansible-community/community-topics#56
• PR for roadmap proposal: Roadmap for Ansible 6 ansible#76772

Vote ended: documentation should use FQCN also for ansible.builtin names (felixfontein, 18:33:50)

• [Vote ended on 2022-01-18] Should documentation use FQCN for ansible.builtin modules or just the short name ansible-community/community-topics#58

Simplifying the collection inclusion process

• Discussion: [Vote ended on 2022-02-02] Simplify the inclusion process ansible-community/community-topics#63

open floor

• We have a new vote, active until next week: [Vote ended on 2022-01-26] Establishing the roadmap for Ansible 6.0.0 ansible-community/community-topics#56

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-19/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-19-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-19/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-19-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-19/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-19-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-01-26

Agenda #539 18:00:39)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda #539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• In accordance with the Community decision, we have created the news-for-maintainers repository for announcements of changes impacting collection maintainers (see the examples)

What to focus on for Ansible 6?

• Roadmap for Ansible 6 ansible#76772 with the Ansible 6 Roadmap has been approved

community.general and community.network: when we drop Ansible 2.9 / ansible-base 2.10 support, should we also drop support of ansible-core < 2.11.8? (felixfontein, 18:53:43)

• Community collections: when to drop support for Ansible 2.9 and ansible-base 2.10? ansible-community/community-topics#50 (comment)

open floor

• https://pypi.org/project/ansible/ ... the source code links to ansible/ansible. That seems wrong, especially in with the "can't remove tests from collection tars" belief

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-26-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-26-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-01-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-01-26-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-02-02

Agenda #539 18:00:49)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda #539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible 5.3.0 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/gU0uW0CNwJM
• ansible-core 2.12.2 and 2.11.8 as well as ansible-base 2.10.17 have been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/VEdKtbHRDAI
• We are happy to announce a new Steering Committee member!... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/9ee3dbae2a186f8190dc5f6b53183fc72aaee1d4)
• Gwmngilfen , dmsimard and myself are speaking at FOSDEM this weekend https://fosdem.org/2022/search/?q=ansible
• [Vote ended on 2022-02-02] Simplify the inclusion process ansible-community/community-topics#63 on simplifying the inclusion process
• if you have good changelog fragment examples, please add to a comment here and we can add to the docs - FEEDBACK WANTED: Crafting better changelog fragments ansible-community/community-topics#64
• The community approved the plan to simplify the collection inclusion process for Ansible: this means that new collections can be added in any minor release (~every three weeks), instead of having to wait for a new major release (~every six months)
• [Vote ended on 2022-02-02] Simplify the inclusion process ansible-community/community-topics#63

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-02-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-02-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-02-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-02-09

Agenda #539 18:00:19)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda #539 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• added changelog examples to FEEDBACK WANTED: Crafting better changelog fragments ansible-community/community-topics#64

Crafting better changelog fragments

• Discussion: FEEDBACK WANTED: Crafting better changelog fragments ansible-community/community-topics#64
• feedback on this topic included here -FEEDBACK WANTED: Crafting better changelog fragments ansible-community/community-topics#64 (comment)

open floor

• We will be closing issue 546 after releasing this week's Bullhorn newsletter. Please continue to share your news items with newsbot (in #ansible-social) as most of you have been doing already. Thanks!
• The Bullhorn - contribute content for developer newsletter #546

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-09-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-09-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-09-18.00.log.html

[dmsimard]

2022-02-16

Agenda #645

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• There is still work to do but we are in the process of bootstrapping community maintained images for ansible-test and execution environments: https://github.com/ansible-community/images
• Ansible 5.4.0 coming next week (Feb 22)

Active discussions

• FEEDBACK WANTED: which directories / files / file patterns should be excluded from the Ansible installation? FEEDBACK WANTED: which directories / files / file patterns should be excluded from the Ansible installation? ansible-community/community-topics#65
• How to handle moving of content from collections inside the Ansible package to collections outside the Ansible package? How to handle moving of content from collections inside the Ansible package to collections outside the Ansible package? ansible-community/community-topics#66
• FEEDBACK WANTED: Crafting better changelog fragments FEEDBACK WANTED: Crafting better changelog fragments ansible-community/community-topics#64
• Revamping the community/contributor documentation Revamping the community/contributor documentation ansible-community/community-topics#60

Revamping the community/contributor documentation

• LINK: Revamping the community/contributor documentation ansible-community/community-topics#60
• LINK: https://hackmd.io/3Cvy2N8tTfSrUzqYZmfEHA#Options
• LINK: https://hackmd.io/pEw-17IvQ-Ce1cBZG-pXQQ

Open floor

• changelog guidance PR ready for review - update changelog fragment guidance with examples ansible#77040

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-16-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-16-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-16-18.00.log.html

[dmsimard]

2022-02-23

Agenda #645

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Active community discussions

• FEEDBACK WANTED: which directories / files / file patterns should be excluded from the Ansible installation? ansible-community/community-topics#65
• unversioning some documentation guides ansible-community/community-topics#68
• Revamping the community/contributor documentation ansible-community/community-topics#60
• How to handle moving of content from collections inside the Ansible package to collections outside the Ansible package? ansible-community/community-topics#66
• Collections included in Ansible should not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/ ansible-community/community-topics#70

Updates

• Ansible 5.4.0 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/razQPdsJXCs
• Latest bullhorn newsletter (issue 46) https://mailchi.mp/redhat/the-bullhorn-46
• Any feedback on the steering committee policy update Update Steering committee guidelines community-docs#49 would be much appreciated. It contains updates like quorum, a casting vote, veto, inclusion workflow changes. After polishing the PR, we'll create a corresponding community topic.

Collections included in Ansible should not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/ ansible-community/community-topics#70

• Some good discussion (see logs)
• ACTION: dmsimard to ask whether it's possible to allow "ansible-galaxy collection build" to be opt-in rather than opt-out

Open floor

• Daylight savings time changes will soon be upon us once again, we should revisit or poll about what meeting time we should adopt

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-23-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-23-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-02-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-02-23-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-03-02

Agenda #645 18:00:44)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Tadej Borovšak (tadeboro) resigned from the Steering Committee, both as a chairperson and a regular member, due to professional reasons (job change). Tadej, thanks for all you did for us, we wish you the best for your next steps in life and career!
• Resignation from the Steering Committee ansible-community/community-topics#72
• Active vote: inclusion of community.sap and nautobot.nautobot-ansible in Ansible: [Vote ended on 2022-03-16] To include community.sap collection in the Ansible package ansible-community/community-topics#74
• Please look at [Vote ended on 2022-01-26] Establishing the roadmap for Ansible 6.0.0 ansible-community/community-topics#56 (comment) regarding Ansible 6, including the related discussions Collections included in Ansible should not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/ ansible-community/community-topics#70 and FEEDBACK WANTED: which directories / files / file patterns should be excluded from the Ansible installation? ansible-community/community-topics#65
• Ansible 6's first alpha is due in 6 weeks (April 12th)

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-02-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-02-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-02-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-03-09

Agenda #645 18:00:30)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• [Vote ended on 2022-03-16] To include community.sap collection in the Ansible package ansible-community/community-topics#74 To include community.sap and nautobot collections in the Ansible package
• [Vote ended on 2022-03-21] Important updates for Ansible Community Steering Committee guidelines ansible-community/community-topics#71 Important updates for Ansible Community Steering Committee guidelines
• [Vote ends on 2022-03-23] Which files to remove from the Ansible 6 installation ansible-community/community-topics#76 Which files to remove from the Ansible 6 installation
• The next Ansible Contributor Summit will be on April 12, 2022. Check out the details in the hackmd, add your names to attendees if you plan to attend, suggest topics etc. https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/contrib-summit-202204/
• [Vote ends on 2022-03-23] Collections included in Ansible must not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/ ansible-community/community-topics#77 Collections included in Ansible must not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/
• [Vote ended on 2022-03-21] Important updates for Ansible Community Steering Committee guidelines ansible-community/community-topics#71 is a rather important vote for the steering committee btw

Research related to Steering Committee guidelines 18:16:15)

• Related vote: [Vote ended on 2022-03-21] Important updates for Ansible Community Steering Committee guidelines ansible-community/community-topics#71 / related PR: Update Steering committee guidelines community-docs#49
• Kubernetes steering committee: https://github.com/kubernetes/community/blob/master/governance.md https://github.com/kubernetes/steering
• Postgres: https://postgresql.fund/blog/is-it-time-to-modernize-postgresql-core/ https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/
• Fedora: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/orgchart/
• OpenJS has a sort of inter-corporate governance model: https://openjsf.org/about/governance/
• some orgs like Apache are Foundations: https://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#structure
• General "project governance overviews" include https://www.redhat.com/en/resources/guide-to-open-source-project-governance-models-overview and https://opensource.com/article/20/5/open-source-governance and interestingly https://developer.ibm.com/articles/open-governance-community/
• (researched by @acozine)

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-09-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-09-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-09-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-03-16

Agenda #645 18:00:13)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible 5.5.0 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/4sbFT7aVklY
• VOTE DEADLINE TODAY! [Vote ended on 2022-03-16] To include community.sap collection in the Ansible package ansible-community/community-topics#74 Inclusion of new collections
• Vote deadline on Monday: [Vote ended on 2022-03-21] Important updates for Ansible Community Steering Committee guidelines ansible-community/community-topics#71 (Steering Committee rules)
• Vote deadline in a week: [Vote ends on 2022-03-23] Which files to remove from the Ansible 6 installation ansible-community/community-topics#76 (files to remove from Ansible 6) and [Vote ends on 2022-03-23] Collections included in Ansible must not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/ ansible-community/community-topics#77 (collections must not use files from non-standard locations)
• Discussion on extra links format: [Discussion until 2023-03-21] Finalize format for extra links file in a collection ansible-community/community-topics#80 - open until next Monday
• Discussions on removing collections from Ansible: Removing unsupported, inactive or otherwise unmaintained collections from the community package ansible-community/community-topics#79 Collection exclusion criteria and procedure ansible-community/community-topics#34

Removing collections from Ansible

• Discussion: Collection exclusion criteria and procedure ansible-community/community-topics#34 (and relatedly, Removing unsupported, inactive or otherwise unmaintained collections from the community package ansible-community/community-topics#79)

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-16-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-16-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-16-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-03-23

Agenda #645 18:00:31)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• We have two votes ending today: [Vote ends on 2022-03-23] Which files to remove from the Ansible 6 installation ansible-community/community-topics#76 [Vote ends on 2022-03-23] Collections included in Ansible must not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/ ansible-community/community-topics#77
• The next Antsibull release will support the new collection links feature (docs/docsite/links.yml file) where collections can provide an Edit on GitHub button, provide links to communication channels, and other links

Removing packages from Ansible package, and the future of the Ansible package (felixfontein, 18:11:09)

• Get working with k8s.core 2 and above ansible-collections/community.kubevirt#34
• [Vote ends on 2022-03-23] Which files to remove from the Ansible 6 installation ansible-community/community-topics#76 and [Vote ends on 2022-03-23] Collections included in Ansible must not use files outside of meta/, plugins/, roles/ and playbooks/ ansible-community/community-topics#77 have been approved

Actions

• @cybette to add Antsibull collection links feature demo to Contrib summit topics

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-23-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-23-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-23-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-03-30

Agenda #645 18:00:12)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• The collection link feature is active on the devel docsite!
• ansible-core created the stable-2.13 branch and bumped devel to 2.14.0.dev0
• Contributor Summit is in two weeks! \o/
• Community Summit infos: https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/contrib-summit-202204

Dependency of Ansible on ansible-core

• Discussion: Versioning of ansible-core dependency for the ansible package ansible-community/community-topics#84
• Old decision was made in https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2020-07-01/community_working_group_meeting.2020-07-01-18.04.html, see also What version of ansible-base should ansible depend on? ansible-community/antsibull-build#94

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-30/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-30-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-30/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-30-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-03-30/ansible_community_meeting.2022-03-30-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-04-06

Agenda #645 18:00:30)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• 6 days until the Contributor Summit! \o/
• There's the inclusion request for the ibm.spectrum_virtualize collection that needs the second review by a SC member Include ibm.spectrum_virtualize collection ansible-collections/ansible-inclusion#35.
• felixfontein is working on splitting up the antsibull package, see Release antsibull 1.0.0 without antsibull-lint ansible-community/antsibull-build#410 for details
• 6 days until the first Ansible 6.0.0 alpha release!
• community.general 4.8.0 (April 26th) will likely be the last 4.x.0 minor release, and 5.0.0 will likely be released on May 17th to make it into Ansible 6.0.0 alpha 3

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-06/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-06-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-06/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-06-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-06/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-06-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-04-13

Agenda #645 18:00:06)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Thanks to the great work by KeyboardInterrupt we now have awesome-ansible which has a curated list of cool Ansible projects. You may find something new. Suggestions for things to add, raise a PR!
• Ansible 6.0.0a1 and ansible-core 2.13.0b1 have been released. These are the first releases that ship with wheels!
• yesterday's Contributor Summit was a great success!
• community member mariolenz joined the Ansible Community Engineering Steering Committee! Welcome, Mario!
• if anyone else has change requests for Describe how collections can be removed from the Ansible package ansible-collections/overview#201 (Describe how collections can be removed from the Ansible package) please voice them ASAP, I'll probably start a vote on this tomorrow
• AWS community meeting in #/amazon-aws, agenda: Amazon Web Services Working Group Agenda - 2022 #654

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-13/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-13-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-13/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-13-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-13/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-13-18.00.log.html

[cybette]

2022-04-20

Agenda #645

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Describe how collections can be removed from the Ansible package ansible-collections/overview#201

Removing collections

• Removing unsupported, inactive or otherwise unmaintained collections from the community package ansible-community/community-topics#79
• Describe how collections can be removed from the Ansible package ansible-collections/overview#201

CLI program which prints the Ansible package's version

• [Vote ended on 2022-06-07] CLI program which prints the Ansible package's version ansible-community/community-topics#89
• Clarify CLI version number as core version ansible#72287 was the PR in which there was an update to clarify the version being ansible-core
• https://github.com/ansible/ansible-doctor
• https://github.com/jctanner/ansible-tools/blob/master/scripts/ansible-install-lister ... not maintained

Open Floor

• Ansible London Meetup used Jitsi-> YouTube + Matrix #europe:ansible.com ) for the first time, for yesterday's meetup. Seemed to work well
• Ansible Montreal meetup tomorrow (April 21), presentations will be in French, details and sign up https://www.meetup.com/Ansible-Montreal/events/284804996/

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-20/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-20-18.02.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-20/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-20-18.02.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-20/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-20-18.02.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-04-27

Agenda #645 18:00:30)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• We are happy to announce that Alexei Znamensky russoz has recently joined the Ansible Community Steering Committee. Welcome, Alexei! Thank you for joining us and your great long-term contribution!
• Ansible 5.7.0 has been released
• Please don't forget to vote on [Vote ended on 2022-05-01] Removal of broken collection community.kubevirt from Ansible 6 ansible-community/community-topics#92 (community.kubevirt removal from Ansible 7) and [Vote ended on 2022-05-01] Schedule community.kubernetes for removal in Ansible 6 or Ansible 7 ansible-community/community-topics#93 (community.kubernetes removal from Ansible 7)
• Please also take a look at the following two discussions related to collection removal and Ansible package maintenance: [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] What to do on Ansible collection dependency violations? ansible-community/community-topics#94 Generic sanity check for all collections ansible-community/community-topics#96
• Pinakes is the upstream community project for Red Hat's Automation Services Catalog product. You can join the discussion in #pinakes:ansible.im (#ansible-pinakes on Libera.chat)

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-27/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-27-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-27/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-27-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-04-27/ansible_community_meeting.2022-04-27-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-05-04

Agenda #645 18:00:13)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• ansible 5.7.1 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/GmOhXTtmj_w
• Feedback wanted on the What to do with a lack of collection inclusion reviews community topic. The backlog of submitted collections is growing, the number of volunteers is not:) How can we fix the situation? See the topic for details.
• please take the Ansible Contributor Survey (if you haven't already). Thanks! https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/TD328PF
• We have some problems with collections included in Ansible, please take a look at the related discussion topics: Generic sanity check for all collections ansible-community/community-topics#96 [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] What to do on Ansible collection dependency violations? ansible-community/community-topics#94
• WIP: build-release: add support for running sanity tests ansible-community/antsibull-build#419 is what I've used to run sanity tests for every included collections, it could potentially live elsewhere too but once we have something like it we can run it on a regular basis which would be a great improvement over the nothing that we have
• Please comment on the proposal (rules 1-4, examples 1-2) in [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] What to do on Ansible collection dependency violations? ansible-community/community-topics#94 (comment) and the comment below it.

open floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-05-04/ansible_community_meeting.2022-05-04-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-05-04/ansible_community_meeting.2022-05-04-18.00.txt
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[felixfontein]

2022-05-11

Agenda #645 18:00:14)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• A kind reminder for the Steering Committee that the ibm.spectrum_virtualize collection inclusion request is waiting for the second review (more than a month passed since the first round was done). Could anyone from the Committee please review it? Thanks.
• The ansible-core 2.13 GA date has been changed from May 23th to May 16th (https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/UlHhhRDVUzc)
• The vmware.vmware_rest collection has been included in Ansible 5. Thanks everyone!

How to handle offensive terminology for new collection content (felixfontein, 18:36:27)

• https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=884368
• Add subcommands parameter for module alternatives. ansible-collections/community.general#4654
• https://github.com/fedora-sysv/chkconfig seem to be the sources for fedora's package that contains update-alternatives, and the alternatives.c header says "Copyright 1997-2009 Red Hat, Inc."

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-05-11/ansible_community_meeting.2022-05-11-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-05-11/ansible_community_meeting.2022-05-11-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-05-11/ansible_community_meeting.2022-05-11-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-05-18

Agenda #645 18:00:03)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• ansible 6.0.0a3 (including ansible-core 2.13.0) is now available for testing: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/x51luOaarOk
• ansible 5.8.0 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/pT_VuSf9uS4
• community.postgresql is seeking feedback on supported PG versions: formalized support matrix for PG versions ansible-collections/community.postgresql#276
• Ansiblefest 2022 announced in Chicago, October 19th & 20th and CFP is open: https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
• Active vote until Friday: history visibility in chat ([Vote ended on 2022-05-20] History visibility in chat ansible-community/community-topics#43)
• Active vote until Monday: adopt process for renaming collections included in Ansible ([Vote ended on 2022-05-23] Adopt process for renaming collections included in Ansible ansible-community/community-topics#102)
• Contributors Summit will be in-person & online on 18th October
• ansible-test sanity (devel branch) now has a Python 3.11 import test
• cisco.dnac will be included in Ansible if nobody objects; deadline for objections is May 19th ([Default inclusion date 19th May 2022] cisco.dnac collection inclusion ansible-community/community-topics#101)
• Hey everyone, I think I've met some of you already but I'm still pretty new so would like to give myself a brief intro. I'm going to be helping out with Ansible docs and contributing to the community. I have been working with the Infinispan community for the past 4+ years and working with them on everything from the community site to docs to the React.JS console. I'm big on the "community first" approach and am really
• We're down from 59 to 51 collections with failing sanity tests as of ansible 6.0.0a3, more details in the issue: Generic sanity check for all collections ansible-community/community-topics#96
• https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
• https://github.com/ansible/galaxy-importer/blob/master/galaxy_importer/schema.py
• https://github.com/pulp/pulp_ansible/blob/main/pulp_ansible/app/serializers.py#L437 the serializer returns the whole json blob afaict, so maybe that doesn't need updating

Logs

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Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-05-18/ansible_community_meeting.2022-05-18-18.00.log.html

[samccann]

2022-05-25

Updates

• AnsibleFest will be in Chicago, Illinois this year, on October 18-19, 2022. CFP for AnsibleFest is open: https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
• There will be a Contributor Summit the day before AnsibleFest on October 17, 2022. More details about the event will be shared when available!
• Feedback wanted on Docs: change community collection inclusion process ansible#77905. Especially from the Steering Committee as it touches the collection inclusion policy (relaxing the rules).

• Unmaintained collection: google.cloud

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• [Vote ended on 2023-02-14] Unmaintained collection: google.cloud ansible-community/community-topics#105
• As the community-topics repo is noisy because of voting in the topics themselves, please help us find a solution Use the Discussions Poll feature for votes ansible-community/community-topics#104
• Use the Discussions Poll feature for votes ansible-community/community-topics#104

Improving Community Voting

• Use the Discussions Poll feature for votes ansible-community/community-topics#104
• https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/collection_checklist.md we have this checklist
• https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/collection_checklist.md we have this checklist for collection inclusion review
• and the details explained in the collection requirements https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/collection_requirements.rst
• this could be an opportunity to improve your visibility and impact on Ansible by helping to vet new collections
• could also create learning opportunities and experience that may lead to Steering Committee membership

Open Floor

• where are we on a cli output for the ansible package version - [Vote ended on 2022-06-07] CLI program which prints the Ansible package's version ansible-community/community-topics#89
• still need to decide about fortinet.fortios and its syntax error
• Sanity tests failing in fortinet.fortios fortinet-ansible-dev/ansible-galaxy-fortios-collection#181
• Compilation of "ansible" with fortios fails on "filtered_data =" syntax fortinet-ansible-dev/ansible-galaxy-fortios-collection#180
• fortios issues - Sanity tests failing in fortinet.fortios fortinet-ansible-dev/ansible-galaxy-fortios-collection#181 and Compilation of "ansible" with fortios fails on "filtered_data =" syntax fortinet-ansible-dev/ansible-galaxy-fortios-collection#180
• one item fixed but no version released yet that contains it SyntaxError: invalid syntax fortinet-ansible-dev/ansible-galaxy-fortios-collection#177

Logs

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Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-05-25/ansible_community_working_group.2022-05-25-18.06.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-06-01

Agenda #645 18:00:10)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible 6.0.0b2 has been released
• The vote [Vote ended on 2022-06-03] Vote on https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/97 (Ansible collection inclusion process) ansible-community/community-topics#106 on the Ansible collection inclusion process is closing in two days (2022-06-03)
• AnsibleFest will be in Chicago, Illinois this year, on October 18-19, 2022. CFP is open: https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
• There will be an Ansible Contributor Summit the day before AnsibleFest on October 17, 2022 (in person + online). More details about the event will be shared when available!
• more feedback wanted for the PR that adds dependency rules (before we start voting): Dependency rules ansible-collections/overview#205
• https://docs.ansible.com/ansible-core/devel/dev_guide/index.html
• new project board to request docs edits/PR reviews - https://github.com/orgs/ansible-community/projects/3/views/1

Open floor

• we have a team of community volunteer writers willing to help out with grammar/readability etc. So far limited to Edit on Github changes. Add your PRs to that board or your easyfix issues if you want docs helps

Logs

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[felixfontein]

2022-06-08

Agenda #645 18:03:26)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible 6.0.0rc1 has been released. It now contains a ansible-community CLI tool which allows to print the Ansible version

Removal of google.cloud and community.google from Ansible (felixfontein, 18:20:43)

• Process: https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/removal_from_ansible.rst#unmaintained-collections

CI requirements for release commit for collections included in Ansible (felixfontein, 18:33:45)

open floor

Actions

• @acozine draft an announcement for the git repos of google.cloud and community.google and The Bullhorn

Logs

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[felixfontein]

2022-06-22

Agenda #645 18:03:03)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible 6.0.0 has been released!
• ansible-core 2.13.1 and ansible-core 2.12.7 have been released

Logs

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[felixfontein]

2022-06-29

Agenda #645 18:00:03)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible 5.10.0 got released
• Ansible 5 is now End of Life

Better CI for Ansible docs that are not part of ansible-core (felixfontein, 18:12:27)

• How can we extend CI testing on docs to include rst files that are part of the Ansible package but not core? ansible-community/community-topics#111
• only GH-based collections actively developed on GH can use the reusable docs CI workflow.

Logs

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[felixfontein]

2022-07-06

Agenda #645 18:00:00)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• the Ansible 6 docs are now complete - the modules in community.network and community.general are back on the 'latest' docsite

Roadmap for Ansible 7

• Proposal: [Vote ended on 2022-07-20] Ansible 7 Roadmap Planning ansible-community/community-topics#115 (comment)

open floor

Logs

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[Ompragash]

2022-07-13

Agenda #645 18:00:00)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Docs WG will back out the docs override on boolean parameters that force yes/no on docs output. Related to [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] Disconnect between Docs and Ansible-lint in regards to truthy statements (booleans) ansible-community/community-topics#116
• Community Writers are available to help with collection docs PR reviews and simple docs issues - https://github.com/orgs/ansible-community/projects/3/views/1
• The Guidelines for VMware REST module development are now available in the collection documentation and can be removed from ansible. Migrate vmware.vmware_rest Dev Guide to collection ansible#78255
• Sandra: Experimenting with redirects to force 2.3 docs traffic to /latest/ except for when the referrer is blank (aka abookmarked link) or when the referrer is docs.ansible.com (aka deliberately navigating to very old docs).
  • The goal is to keep the docs available for those who really are using them, but get google to stop showing them as top search results when folks really need latest docs, not something 4+ years old.

Roadmap for Ansible 7

• Proposal: [Vote ended on 2022-07-20] Ansible 7 Roadmap Planning ansible-community/community-topics#115 (comment)

open floor

• Have a section in collection/overview repo that talks about Notational Conventions which refers RFC 2119 & rationale for the C99 standard as we mention a lot of MUST SHOULD

Logs

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[felixfontein]

2022-07-20

Agenda #645 18:00:16)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• AnsibleFest registration is open! The event will be at Sheraton Grand Chicago Riverwalk on October 18-19, 2022. Check out the details and register at https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
• There's a new vote on adding rules on collection dependencies: [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] Vote on https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/94: add rules on collection dependencies ansible-community/community-topics#119
• Ansible Contributor Summit will be the day before AnsibleFest (Oct 17, 2022) at the same location. Due to the focus of the event, space is limited and you'll pre-register to be on the "invite" list (so when you register for Fest you can add on Contributor Summit as an option) https://ansiblecs202210.eventbrite.com/?aff=matrix
• For those attending Contributor Summit virtually you can also register on Eventbrite and select the "Online" option
• New vote on normalization of boolean values: [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] Vote on https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/116: normalize booleans in documenation, ansible-lint, ansible-doc, ...? ansible-community/community-topics#120

open floor

• After this week's Bullhorn release, we'll skip an issue of The Bullhorn next week and return in 2 weeks.
• Vote on google.cloud being unmaintained and removed from Ansible 8: [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] Remove `google.cloud`from Ansible 8 ansible-community/community-topics#121

Logs

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[samccann]

2022-07-27

Agenda #645

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• VOTE ENDS 08-03 - on adding rules on collection dependencies: [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] Vote on https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/94: add rules on collection dependencies ansible-community/community-topics#119
• VOTE ENDS 08-03 - removing google.cloud from Ansible 8 - [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] Remove `google.cloud`from Ansible 8 ansible-community/community-topics#121
• VOTE ENDS-08-03 on normalize booleans in documentation, ansible-lint, ansible-doc, ... [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] Vote on https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/116: normalize booleans in documenation, ansible-lint, ansible-doc, ...? ansible-community/community-topics#120
• AnsibleFest registration is open! The event will be at Sheraton Grand Chicago Riverwalk on October 18-19, 2022. Check out the details and register at https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
• Ansible Contributor Summit will be the day before AnsibleFest (Oct 17, 2022) at the same location. Due to the focus of the event, space is limited and you'll pre-register to be on the "invite" list (so when you register for Fest you can add on Contributor Summit as an option) https://ansiblecs202210.eventbrite.com/?aff=matrix
• For those attending Contributor Summit virtually you can also register on Eventbrite and select the "Online" option

Ansible Roadmap and Tracking

• new community topic on how to better track deliverables and ensure they are completed on time for future Ansible package releases - Better tracking options for Ansible package planned work ansible-community/community-topics#122
• we have Ansible roadmaps but they are date-focuse and do not include 'planned work' like the core roadmap has - https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/devel/roadmap/ROADMAP_2_14.html#planned-work
• how can we best decide what we plan for Ansible 7, 8, etc as well as track to be sure we are on target to deliver (or update Planned work for whatever gets delayed as core does)?
• https://docs.github.com/en/issues/using-labels-and-milestones-to-track-work/about-milestones
• we could use github milestones https://docs.github.com/en/issues/using-labels-and-milestones-to-track-work/about-milestones

Open Floor

• dependency issue with community.mongodb is fixed now - community.mongodb depends on old version of community.general ansible-collections/community.mongodb#482

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-07-27/community_working_group.2022-07-27-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-07-27/community_working_group.2022-07-27-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-07-27/community_working_group.2022-07-27-18.00.log.html

[samccann]

2022-08-03

Agenda #645

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• VOTE ENDS TODAY - on adding rules on collection dependencies: [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] Vote on https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/94: add rules on collection dependencies ansible-community/community-topics#119
• Need clearer IRC hailing processes #119 - 9 votes, all in favor. 6 or 7 from steering committee
• VOTE ENDS TODAY - removing google.cloud from Ansible 8 - [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] Remove `google.cloud`from Ansible 8 ansible-community/community-topics#121
• servicenow.servicenow collection is deprecated ansible-community/ansible-build-data#144 might need to be deprecated as well
• VOTE ENDS-TODAY on normalize booleans in documentation, ansible-lint, ansible-doc, ... [Vote ended on 2022-08-03] Vote on https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/116: normalize booleans in documenation, ansible-lint, ansible-doc, ...? ansible-community/community-topics#120
• AnsibleFest registration is open! The event will be at Sheraton Grand Chicago Riverwalk on October 18-19, 2022. Check out the details and register at https://www.ansible.com/ansiblefest
• Ansible Contributor Summit will be the day before AnsibleFest (Oct 17, 2022) at the same location. Due to the focus of the event, space is limited and you'll pre-register to be on the "invite" list (so when you register for Fest you can add on Contributor Summit as an option) https://ansiblecs202210.eventbrite.com/?aff=matrix
• For those attending Contributor Summit virtually you can also register on Eventbrite and select the "Online" option
• community topic on how to better track deliverables and ensure they are completed on time for future Ansible package releases - Better tracking options for Ansible package planned work ansible-community/community-topics#122
• we'll leave this one open another week in case there are more ideas out there
• new community topic - Improve licensing rules for 'all other code' in the collection inclusion requirementshttps://github.com/[Vote ended on 2022-10-11] Improve licensing rules for 'all other code' in the collection inclusion requirements ansible-community/community-topics#123
• Make it clear that code outside plugins/ can have other free software licenses as well ansible-collections/overview#212 ...a url that works!
• how do we bring back CI testing for all rst based docs? - How can we extend CI testing on docs to include rst files that are part of the Ansible package but not core? ansible-community/community-topics#111

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-03/community_working_group.2022-08-03-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-03/community_working_group.2022-08-03-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-03/community_working_group.2022-08-03-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-08-10

Agenda #645 18:00:17)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• there are at least 4 collections available for inclusion review, so any eyes would be much appreciated. See https://github.com/ansible-collections/ansible-inclusion/discussions/categories/second-review-needed and https://github.com/ansible-collections/ansible-inclusion/discussions/categories/new-collection-reviews and
• Discuss removing unnecessary files from collections ansible-community/community-topics#126

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-10/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-10-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-10/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-10-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-10/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-10-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-08-17

Agenda #645

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• ansible-core 2.13.3 and ansible-core 2.12.8 have been released https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/px0IRJodpKY
• There's an active vote: [Vote ended on 2022-08-22] Remove servicenow.servicenow in Ansible 7 ansible-community/community-topics#127 - Remove servicenow.servicenow in Ansible 7
• Collection inclusion review day happening Tues Aug 23, 6-10 UTC and 12-16 UTC in community WG channel.

Logs

Log: https://paste.sr.ht/~gotmax23/02266ebdbfb8fde79322ea5f594d1f7ad46554b2

[felixfontein]

2022-08-24

Agenda #645 18:00:04)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible 6.3.0 has been released!
• We want to start the unmaintained removal process for dellemc.os(10|9|6) to determine whether they are unmaintained, and if they are, remove them from Ansible in the future

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-24/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-24-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-24/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-24-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-24/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-24-18.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-08-31

Agenda #645 18:00:24)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• The next Ansible Contributor Summit will be on October 17, 2022! Check out the topics we have tentatively so far, comment on them and propose your own: https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/cs202210-planning
• The event will be hybrid, so you can join in person or online. Please register here: https://ansiblecs202210.eventbrite.com/?aff=matrix
• andersson007_ is collecting questions for Legal at [Collection will end on 2022-09-09] Questions to Legal ansible-community/community-topics#131
• [Collection will end on 2022-09-09] Questions to Legal ansible-community/community-topics#131
• Discuss removing unnecessary files from collections ansible-community/community-topics#126
• role versioning proposals#23

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-31/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-31-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-31/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-31-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-08-31/ansible_community_meeting.2022-08-31-18.00.log.html

[cybette]

2022-09-07

Agenda #645

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• The preliminary agenda for Ansible Contributor Summit is here, please share your comments and feedback: https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/cs202210-agenda
• We are still looking for a couple more topics if possible, please feel free to propose it here: https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/cs202210-planning
• if you have any questions about Ansible Contributor Summit, just ping cybette or andersson007_
• ACTION: andersson007 to think about Steering Committee WF update related to triage of old topics
• https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/dancing-with-toshio

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-07/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-07-18.02.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org//ansible-community/2022-09-07/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-07-18.02.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-07/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-07-18.02.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-09-14

Agenda #645 18:01:17)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• ansible-core feature freeze (for 2.14) is coming Monday, September 19
• one week later the first ansible-core 2.14 beta, and then the first Ansible 7 alpha, will be released

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-14/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-14-18.01.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-14/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-14-18.01.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-14/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-14-18.01.log.html

[Andersson007]

2022-09-21

Agenda #645

• ansible-core stable-2.14 branch available for testing / devel updated to 2.15.0.dev0 ansible-core stable-2.14 branch available for testing / devel updated to 2.15.0.dev0 ansible-collections/news-for-maintainers#24

Updates

• ansible-core stable-2.14 branch available for testing / devel updated to 2.15.0.dev0 ansible-core stable-2.14 branch available for testing / devel updated to 2.15.0.dev0 ansible-collections/news-for-maintainers#24
• New releases: ansible-core 2.13.4, ansible-core 2.12.9 https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/mBAQY9EMbos
• [Vote ended on 2022-10-04] Unmaintained collection: dellemc.os10 ansible-community/community-topics#134 27 days ago

Actions

• @mariolenz to open vote on dellemc.* collection exclusion
• @Andersson007 to ask @briantist to submit a PR to clarify the statement mentioned in Inclusion requirement - editor configs, and the meaning of "unnecessary" ansible-community/community-topics#138

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-21/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-21-18.01.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-21/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-21-18.01.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-21/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-21-18.01.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-09-28

Agenda #645 18:00:20)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• the agenda for Ansible Contributor Summit 2022.10 is now available! https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/cs202210-agenda
• Today Ansible 7.0.0a1 should get released
• for more details about what's happening at AnsibleFest 2022 (the 2 days after Contributor Summit), check out this post: https://www.ansible.com/blog/the-automation-experience-ansiblefest-2022
• We're looking for a bit of feedback on changing formatting of default / choices values / samples in the Ansible docs (use <code>): Use code formatting for all values (choice entries, defaults, samples) ansible-community/antsibull-docs#38
• https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/magic-modules

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-28/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-28-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-28/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-28-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-09-28/ansible_community_meeting.2022-09-28-18.00.log.html

[gotmax23]

2022-10-12

Info

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics
• ansible-core 2.12.10, 2.13.5, and 2.14.0b3 were released this week
• ansible-core 2.14.0b3 (3rd beta) has been released https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/s2EwCSbS_hM
• ansible-core 2.13.5 and ansible-core 2.12.10 have been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/k6FX5XNH9ww
• the question to Legal about removing/not including stuff from collection artifacts has been sent
• Ansible Contributor Summit 2022.10 HackMD - get all the info here, where/when/how to join, what sessions and tracks are available and some details about them: https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/contrib-summit-202210
• Breakout rooms info and live-stream links will be shared shortly. As long as you're in the main conference room on the day (#summit:ansible.com on Matrix, #ansible-conf on Libera Chat) you'll see the signposts for them
• @Andersson007 is happy to announce that Maxwell G (aka gotmax23 on GitHub, gotmax on Matrix) has joined the Steering Committee !!!

Collections that don't tag releases - ansible-community/community-topics#148

• https://github.com/ansible/zuul-config/blob/master/README.rst
• We'll create a separate issue to discuss considering collections that don't fix guidelines violations unmaintained under https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/removal_from_ansible.rst#id26
• https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/removal_from_ansible.rst mentions broken and unmaintained collections, but doesn't talk about collections failing requirements.
• We'll create a separate issue to discuss recommending collection use Zuul for Galaxy releases (https://github.com/ansible/zuul-config/)

Open Floor

• prettyfy ansible-doc ansible#75116

Actions

• @gotmax23 to submit a PR and start a vote on the proposed guidelines changing after a couple days if there's no major objections
• @gotmax23 to look into automation to ensure Galaxy collection releases are tagged
• @Andersson007 to create an issue re. the unmaintained collection process changes -- removal_from_ansible.rst: add paragraph about removal collections violating the requirements ansible-collections/overview#217

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-12-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-12-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-12/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-12-18.00.log.html

[gotmax23]

2022-10-26

Intro and Info

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics
• Ansible 7.0.0a2 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-announce/c/EI8cOKdBAxQ
• [associated vote ended on 2022-12-08] Unmaintained collection: cisco.nso ansible-community/community-topics#155
• Thanks to everyone for participating in Ansible Contributor Summit (both virtually and in-person)! We will share links and more details about the event in the next Bullhorn issue.
• the galaxy_ng beta is live and docs can currently be found at https://deploy-preview-1501--galaxyng.netlify.app/community/overview/ we welcome any and all feedback

Collections that don't tag releases

• [Associated vote ended on 2022-10-26] Collections that don't tag releases ansible-community/community-topics#148

[WIP] removal_from_ansible.rst: add paragraph about removal

• removal_from_ansible.rst: add paragraph about removal collections violating the requirements ansible-collections/overview#217

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-26-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-26-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-10-26/ansible_community_meeting.2022-10-26-18.00.log.html

[gotmax23]

2022-11-02

Intros and Info

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics
• ansible-core 2.14.0rc2 was released earlier this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/dZWVmORHkxo
• [Vote ends on 2022-11-08] Collection Removal Policy: add a paragraph about Collection Requirements violations
• [Vote ended on 2022-11-08] Collection Removal Policy: add a paragraph about Collection Requirements violations ansible-community/community-topics#158
• [Vote ends on 2022-11-04] Change release cadence and schedule of Ansible from 7.0.0 on to couple more tightly to ansible-core
• [Vote ended on 2022-11-04] Change release cadence and schedule of Ansible from 7.0.0 on to couple more tightly to ansible-core ansible-community/community-topics#157
• Ansible 7 feature freeze is coming up next week: 2022-11-07 is the last day collections can make backwards-incompatible changes and still be included in Ansible 7!
• The discussion on un-flat-mapping community.general and community.network (Proposal: Remove flat-mapping from community.general and community.network ansible-community/community-topics#147) needs more attention!

Proposal: Remove flat-mapping from community.general and community.network

• Proposal: Remove flat-mapping from community.general and community.network ansible-community/community-topics#147
• Extension suggests replacements of modules with internal implentation names vscode-ansible#573
• 👍 Informally agreed (+5,0,0) to remove flatmapping from community.general before the 2022-11-07 Ansible 7 freeze

Open Floor

• 👍 Informally agreed (+4,0,0) to move the community meeting to 19:00 UTC so it stays at 2:00 p.m. EST / 8:00 p.m. CET

Actions

• @cybette to update remindbot to start meetings at 19:00 UTC from next week (Nov 9) onwards

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-02-18.02.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-02-18.02.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-02/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-02-18.02.log.html

[gotmax23]

2022-11-09

Intro and Info

• The weekly community meeting has moved from Wednesdays at 18:00 UTC to Wednesdays at 19:00 UTC so it stays at 2:00 p.m. EST / 8:00 p.m. CET now that DST / summer time is ending. The meeting location – #ansible-community on IRC and #community:ansible.com on Matrix – remains the same. As always, all interested community members are welcome!
• Ansible 7.0.0b1 was released this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/vmnxxW7gCco
• Ansible 6.6.0 was released this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/Kr7YjUN33pM
• ansible-core 2.14.0 was released this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/G5TB9zNKNDk
• ansible-core 2.13.6 was relased this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/uDceTGqyXeE
• Ansible 7.0.0rc1 will happen next week, and depending on the feedback Ansible 7.0.0 will either be released one or two week afterwards, with a potential rc2 inbetween
• We've merged the removal_from_ansible policy change. Collections with unresolved Collection Requirements violations are now subject to removal from the Ansible package.

How to mark private plugins in a collection #154

• How to mark private plugins in a collection (with a proposal and implementation) ansible-community/community-topics#154
• Treat plugins in collections whose name starts with _ as private ansible#79218
• Consider plugins whose last component of FQCN starts with '_' as private ansible-community/antsibull-docs#56
• Add role and playbooks to install sops, add EE tests, show how to use in EE ansible-collections/community.sops#98
• There's some agreement that there should be a standardized way to mark content in a collection as private. If we proceed, the next steps are to decide whether to use the _ prefix approach or a metadata based approach, discuss this with core, and get the changes into ansible-core and antsibull-docs to hide private plugins from ansible-doc -l and the docsite.

Open Floor

• [associated vote ended on 2022-11-08] Collection Removal Policy: add a paragraph about Collection Requirements violations ansible-community/community-topics#150 (comment)

Actions

• @gotmax23 to submit an ansible-build-data PR add each collection's repository URL to collection-meta.yaml

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-09-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-09-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-09/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-09-19.00.log.html

[gotmax23]

2022-11-16

Intros and Info

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics
• Ansible 7.0.0rc1 was released this week: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/6qXQBecm2ag
• Ansible 7.0.0rc1 has been released! If there are no huge blunders reported until Friday, 7.0.0 will be released next week.

Follow Up

• Update on private plugins in collections: core prefers metadata instead of filename semantics, @felixfontein created a new PR for that (ref: How to mark private plugins in a collection (with a proposal and implementation) ansible-community/community-topics#154, Allow to mark plugins in collections as private ansible#79370)

Future of c.g and c.n and Process for orphaning/deprecating modules in community.general and community.network

• Process for orphaning/deprecating modules in community.general and community.network ansible-community/community-topics#20
• There is some agreement about identifying and removing dead/unmaintained/unsed plugins in community.general and community.network.
• Ideas include: adding metadata about the maintenance state of plugins, announcing orphaned plugins in the changelog/bullhorn, maybe some sort of optional survey/script/callback plugin to collect data, warnings after time has passed, engaging the devtools team about data from ansible-lint or the vscode plugin

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-16-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-16-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-16/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-16-19.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-11-23

Agenda #645 19:00:02)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible 7.0.0 has been released! https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-project/c/_in8jqIr7BE/m/m485FzmLAQAJ
• we finally got a response from RH legal on our questions on excluding files; a preliminary summary can be found here: [Collection will end on 2022-09-09] Questions to Legal ansible-community/community-topics#131 (comment)

Questions to legal and unnecessary files

• [Collection will end on 2022-09-09] Questions to Legal ansible-community/community-topics#131

open floor

• We love and appreciate your feedback! Please take the Contributor Survey and help us improve the Ansible Community - https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/7PVX5S2

Actions

• @gotmax and felixfontein to look into adding support to antsibull for creating an ansible source distribution

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-23-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-23-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-23/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-23-19.00.log.html

[felixfontein]

2022-11-30

Agenda #645 19:00:06)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible Core Holiday Release Schedule Update https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/IQ7VPnw9yS8
• grafana.grafana and dellemc.unity will be included in Ansible assuming nobody objects (Include grafana.grafana collection in the ansible package (no vote's needed, will get included by default on 2022-12-06 if no objections) ansible-community/community-topics#164, Include dellemc.unity collection in the ansible package (no vote's needed, will get included by default on 2022-12-16 if no objections) ansible-community/community-topics#163)
• There is a vote on removing cisco.nso from Ansible 8 since it appears to be unmaintained ([Vote ended on 2022-12-08] Remove cisco.nso from Ansible 9 ansible-community/community-topics#165)
• https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/removal_from_ansible.rst
• https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/removal_from_ansible.rst#process-5
• https://github.com/orgs/ansible-collections/projects/2 keeps track of all disabled tests
• https://github.com/vmware/govmomi/tree/master/vcsim ... we got away with smoke testing vmware with that for a long time

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-30/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-30-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-30/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-30-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-11-30/ansible_community_meeting.2022-11-30-19.00.log.html

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2022-12-07

Agenda #645 19:01:12)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Ansible 6.7.0 has been Released! https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/3SAbTPNFBM4
• New release: ansible-core 2.14.1 https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/AGqD9SR1D5I
• Ansible 7.1.0 has been released! https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/5yzi2ye9cPM
• Cfgmgmtcamp registration is open! https://registration.cfgmgmtcamp.org/ghent/2023/ If you're planning to attend Ansible Contributor Summit, please also select Workshop/Fringe day!
• New release: ansible-core 2.13.7 https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/hGR4LnAkeCw
• The Ansible docsite repo is now public. This repo contains the static HTML and assets for the layout and navigation on docs.ansible.com so the community can now fork it and make changes. You can find it at: https://github.com/ansible/docsite
• Steering Committee members, please look at the vote [Vote ended 2022-12-12] Postpone Ansible 7.2.0 ansible-community/community-topics#169 on the release schedule of Ansible around the winter holidays
• We're planning a Proof of Concept for the Ansible docsite. details in https://hackmd.io/MguEzoFwT2GAg6IJ7J6xKw

POC for a new Ansible docsite

• https://hackmd.io/MguEzoFwT2GAg6IJ7J6xKw

open floor

• https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/issues?q=is%3Aissue. Most of it is just administrative stuff
• [5.7.0] SyntaxError: invalid syntax ansible-community/ansible-build-data#114 was a proper report
• cyberark/conjur-ansible-collection ansible-community/ansible-build-data#28 maybe as well, but all others were more administrative

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-12-07/ansible_community_meeting.2022-12-07-19.01.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-12-07/ansible_community_meeting.2022-12-07-19.01.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-12-07/ansible_community_meeting.2022-12-07-19.01.log.html

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2022-12-14

Agenda #645 19:00:21)

• Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2022 #645 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics

Updates

• Please vote on "[Vote ends on 2022-12-16] Removal from Ansible 9: cyberark.pas": [Vote ended on 2022-12-16] Removal from Ansible 9: cyberark.pas ansible-community/community-topics#172
• ansible-core 2.15.0 Schedule Change https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/KtGFm6fCB7U
• Ansible community package holiday release schedule https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/htFjU7jZVYA

Ansible 8 Release Schedule

• ansible-core 2.15's release schedule is at https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/roadmap/ROADMAP_2_15.rst
• https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/roadmap/ROADMAP_2_15.rst
• https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/roadmap/ROADMAP_2_15.rst are the latest core dates

Ansible PYPi description

• [associated vote ended on 2023-01-26] ansible PyPI description ansible-community/community-topics#173
• https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/blob/b93294f5500cc8fa19829eb1a8aab3ffec30510f/src/antsibull/data/ansible-readme.rst#design-principles
• Improve ansible PyPI README ansible-community/antsibull-build#474 (comment)

ansible/ansible-hub-ui#3020 19:53:11)

• the question here is whether we should refer to roles as standalone roles, legacy roles, or something else in the Galaxy NG UI.

Actions

• @gotmax23 to create a community-topics ticket about whether Galaxy NG should use the term Standalone Roles or Legacy Roles

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-12-14/ansible_community_meeting.2022-12-14-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-12-14/ansible_community_meeting.2022-12-14-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2022-12-14/ansible_community_meeting.2022-12-14-19.00.log.html

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2023 continues in #679 :)